Silicone?

fiend101 · #1 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 02:26 AM

I cant seem to find any black silicone I have looked at Walmart and Home Depot.Does anyone know a chain that carries it? Also I noticed that most of the GE silicones say Bioguard protects against mold and whatnot should I try to find silicone without this or is it fine to use?

froggsong · #2 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 10:08 PM

GE type two has been used by MANY with no problems, just be SURE that it is cured before adding animals. I buy mine from Home Depot, that was the only place I could find black. If they do not have any in stock, they should be able to order some for you. Buy more than you think you'll need. I just did a 20g long background, with silicone only on top of the GS, and it took a tube and a half. There are other colors, just make sure it is something that will contrast with the GS so you can see any spots you miss. You can use GE type I if you want, I did the first time I did a BG, but it smell MUCH MUCH MUCH worse, and the GE II is fine. I actually got BETTER coverage with the type II. Check Lowe's as well. Maybe an Ace Hardware if you have one. Any place that sells bathroom stuff should have it.

kristy55303 · #3 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 10:59 PM

all ge silicones have had that bioseal in it, it is just advertised now on the bottle for business to catch your eye. it was actually in the non-marked ge silicone 1 also but they just recently started marking it up. It is safe for all frogs after it has been cured. don't worry one bit about it. kristy

froggsong · #4 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 11:35 PM

Actually kristy, it is NOT in all of the GE silicones. There are TWO types of GE type I, the kitchen and bath has always had it in it, I believe that it is the Doors and Windows (I don't have any tubes of it left to check exactly what it was called) variety that does NOT have it in it. However, the fumes from this type are MUCH worse, and it takes FAR longer to cure than the type II. Therefore, it is better to just go with the type II.

kristy55303 · #5 (**permalink**) 08-02-2008, 12:40 AM

yes i agree but called the company and they said the bioseal was in both silicone ge 100% I and II

hope i am not upsetting you lol.....just respectful replies.

i build lots of terraniums for dart frogs but have yet to experiement with some water features

Athen · #6 (**permalink**) 08-02-2008, 02:32 AM

yes kristy is right it has always been in the silicone but since people are starting to become more conscious of killer mold and such they begain actually putting it on the label not rly sure why they changed it from type one to type two probably so that they could charge more for the same thing.. and make people think it is different.... any ways dont get me started on that that is one of my livid subjects and i tend to rant when i get livid lol

Edit: ahhh on further thought froggsong mentioned the difference between them is kitchen and bath and doors and windows type one is the doors and windows and type two is the kitchen and bath which i would deduce is the reason they decided to advertise the mold inhibitor on that because it is more desireable in the bathroom and kitchen for obvious reasons.. and the reason the door and window has a stronger smell is as far as i can tell because there is more adhesive in it since you would need that for doors and windows =)

kristy55303 · #7 (**permalink**) 08-02-2008, 02:36 AM

lol....livid he he love it! yep it is just a stupid marketing deal.....both have had it. nice to meet you athen. KRISTY

froggsong · #8 (**permalink**) 08-02-2008, 02:49 AM

I was not saying that it is not in ALL of the type I silicones. I was saying that I don't believe it is in the Window and Door GE Silicone type I. What you are saying could very well be true, but I have examined the tubes for all three (type I kitchen and bath, type I window and door, and type II [which I believe comes in kitchen and bath AND window and door, like type I does]), and the window and door says NOTHING about any mildew repellant, whereas the other do. I sent off an email to GE just a bit ago to end the debate for good.

Here is the text of the email I sent, I will post the reply when I get it:

Hello,

We have a debate going on a forum I am part of about your GE silicones, type I and II. There are a couple of people that say that type I contains the Bioseal that is in the type II. I have noticed that the kitchen and bath says it has mildew protection, but the Window and Door does not. So, do BOTH types of the type I contain the mildew repellant, or does only the kitchen and bath have it? Both are completely safe once cured, correct? Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Meghan

Please don't think that I am out to prove you wrong, I just want to know for sure. I think that getting a reply in text is a better way to say yes or no, because it can be simply copied in it's entirety. Hope I get a reply soon!

Athen · #9 (**permalink**) 08-02-2008, 02:56 AM

nice to meet you as well kristy dont mind the debate on this subject =) there is often debates going on in here lol just so long as there is no name calling everything is all good lol

make sure everyone reads my edit on my last post too =)

kristy55303 · #10 (**permalink**) 08-02-2008, 02:58 AM

no prob...but i did call and ask about the 100% silicone I and two and they answered this: they both contain bioseal. it is just a marketing tool. new label. i have also asked other professional dart frog enthusiasts on this question and they got the same response. i dont think your post is contradicting or disrespectful in any way. i am really easy to talk to actually. Just have a lot of experience with silicone and have done a lot of research....also a part of twi.org which is for conservation and have read up alot on it. looking forward to their reply of course! kristy