fish and frogs?

[Green Ghost]

I have a sump that the tank drains into by means of a riser tube (covered with netting) that's seated in a flange going through the bottom glass of the tank. I drilled a 1" hole in the bottom of the tank to install the flange. The return is pumped back in the to the tank via another flange also installed in the bottom that has tubing coming out at the top of the waterfall. (that tubing is hidden)

The sump was necessary for me because I'm running multiple tanks with it and it makes things maintenance free. Probably not the typical setup though.

I was using a submersible filter before and I found that the water chemistry wasn't steady.

I have a mating pair of kribensis in there. I also have 2 chinese algae eaters but that's more for function than show.

Beta's would be another fish to consider. I've done that before.

The smaller the water area the faster it will foul. Now that the sump is incorporated into the setup I have a lot more water even if it's not always directly in the tank. That makes the water chemistry more stable. Like Rainfrog mentioned the fish have to match with the amphibian's environment.
This tank is super planted also.

[captaincarot]

dwarf african clawed frogs (Hymenochirus boettgeri)
can be kept in a fully aquatic set up.

and they are full of personality, if you keep them in a community fish tank just up the water change frequency because they produce a lot of waste.

don't however mix african clawed frogs (Xenopus Laevis) with fish unless they are pretty big fish because they grow quite big and you will end up with a fat frog and repidly dissappearing fish population once they can get the fish in their mouth.
i've got 3 dwarf clawed frogs in a mixed species tropical tank and they all get along fine.

[aquapants]

I know, I love adfs! We have tried to keep them before, but they are very sensitive to water params and unfortunately they dont like our water. We love them so much that it breaks our hearts to find them dead or dying. We would rather not subject any more of them to our bad water. (plus, they are technically restricted in Maine, but then again, pretty much everything is restricted in Maine.)

[Selllena]

I also have fish with frogs, I have got 4 bombina, they prefer water even more than ground, they are not big, they are very pretty, active during the day, easy to keep and, to prevent the question about their poisonousness -if bred in captivity,- they are not dangerous. And more, I'd like to add to my aqua terrarium common tree frogs - Hyla arborea or cinerea because I adore them, specially arborea, they can live till 25 years old(unfortunately cinerea are more fragile, they don't live long).These frogs do not do any harm to fish . All of them are compatible.

[zigog]

its fine to have frogs and fish id recomend a whites tree frog aka a dumpy frog they like people and to be held

[Rainfrog]

I would not advise putting tree frogs in with FBTs. all frogs excrete some kind of toxin from skin and waste. these toxins may not be harmful to people but to other frogs that have absorbent skin they can be deadly.

[Rainfrog]

G. Ghost: sounds like a nice set up. adding a sump is a good way to increase water volume. Have you thought about an overflow as well? your sump could return to a small tank above your main tank. in this tank you could have sand and live plants. you could also grow smaller organisms in it that would flow down to feed the fish in your main tank. you could have the return to the main be a water fall set up

[Javeo]

I too am planning something similar, I have a 40gal exo terra for a pair of RETFs, I have made a small pool which will be 5" deep but due to false bottom volume will be about 7 us gallons. I am no searching for some small soft water fish, possibly neon tetras. Will use plenty of carbon, a 600lph powerhead which will pull water through the carbon and supply a stream which will oxygenate and circulate water. or perhaps an external filter?

[Green Ghost]

Originally Posted by Rainfrog

G. Ghost: sounds like a nice set up. adding a sump is a good way to increase water volume. Have you thought about an overflow as well? your sump could return to a small tank above your main tank. in this tank you could have sand and live plants. you could also grow smaller organisms in it that would flow down to feed the fish in your main tank. you could have the return to the main be a water fall set up

Never thought about that (having the return to a smaller tank before it goes into the show tank) actually. Sounds like a refugium. It might be a good idea. The way things are set up right now there's no space for that.

My Kribensis spawned last month and I had about 75 eggs hatch. Had I set things up as you mentioned I might have been much easier managing that so I'll keep it in mind.

[Green Ghost]

Originally Posted by Selllena

I also have fish with frogs, I have got 4 bombina, they prefer water even more than ground, they are not big, they are very pretty, active during the day, easy to keep and, to prevent the question about their poisonousness -if bred in captivity,- they are not dangerous. And more, I'd like to add to my aqua terrarium common tree frogs - Hyla arborea or cinerea because I adore them, specially arborea, they can live till 25 years old(unfortunately cinerea are more fragile, they don't live long).These frogs do not do any harm to fish . All of them are compatible.

GTF's (H. Cinerea) could potentially go very well with FBT's depending on the setup. IMHO, I don't think it can be done without having live plants, though because live plants will grow out and create an upper level for the GTF's to move around on.
I have a setup like this and I have no issues.