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Old 04-19-2008, 10:21 AM
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Hey! We have decided that we will dedicate a section to the people of dendroboard.com and Viv Forums! If you think that you have an amazing vivarium, terrarium or other frog habitat send your info in to us! If we think that your tank is awsome we will feature you in our new book. Here's the requirements:
1)A Set-by-step How to (1 page min.)
2)At least 6 photos to go with it (can be more)
3)How you would like to be credited
4)Must send all info to spiderez@gmail.com
5)Remember no copyrighted info will be excepted.

Also, if you think you are an amazing at creating stands as well, send them on in too. Here's the requirements as well:
1)A Set-by-step How to (1 page min.)
2)At least 6 photos to go with it
3)How you would like to be credited
4)Must send all info to spiderez@gmail.com
5)Remember no copyrighted info will be excepted.

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Old 04-21-2008, 04:06 PM
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What is the deadline on the photo's, and do you have a publisher yet / who is?
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Hey! Well I will be excepting photos and writeups for at leat 2 or so more weeks. We are not announcing anything yet about a publisher until we are closer with finishing the book. We have some very good prospects. Thanks.
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:54 AM
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might want to work on your spelling and grammar before writing a book... and is anyone to be compensated in any way after it is published and you are generating profit? Of course, by the time I am posting this, you may be done with everything, but I was just curious.
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:33 AM
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First of all there is no need to be rude. Do not judge me by how I write in this forum or any other. It is not smart to judge someone or how someone does things, when you do not know them. Although I can write with no assistance, there are 2 others besides myself who are writing this book. Matter a fact, the owner of this forum is writing 2 sections of the book. Also before any book is published, the book usually will go through an editing process to make sure that everything is perfect before it goes into print. Writing a little comment in a forum and writing a book are completely two different things. I don't care how I write a comment, but I do care how a write in a book. There is a very big difference in the two.

Second, all pictures as well as write ups are donated to us and we give credit to everyone who takes the time to send them in. This is our first book animal guide and unfortunately we can not compensate everyone for their photos, etc. We do have several non-profit organizations as well as cooperate sponsors but they are helping us advertise (Support in other ways as well) rather than give us money or compensation, which is fine with us.

Let me take that back, there is one company that is getting compensated, which is Amphibian Ark They will receive monetary funds from us with each book we sell. I hope I answered all of your questions.

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Old 06-04-2008, 02:19 PM
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Ok. First of all, I did not mean to be rude. Before you responded, I did not know that there were others writing the book with you, and one can't be sure that someone is going to have someone ELSE edit their book for them. If you had been editing the book yourself, you may not have caught grammar and spelling mistakes, because you already know what it is supposed to say, and the brain corrects the mistakes.

Second, I understand that at a first undertaking you cannot afford to compensate everyone, but you did not say, and I wasn't asking if you were going to compensate everyone from the get go, but more like if someone sent something in would they have a sort of interest in the book. (Perhaps a small percentage of the profits, or a free copy after publication.)

Again, I meant no offense, but I generally don't sugar coat or over explain myself when I ask a question. I merely meant it as a suggestion. Now, at the risk of making you mad again, I check everything I write for spelling and grammar before I post it, because that is the image you are presenting to the world. While the internet is wrought with spelling and grammar mistakes, some of us should choose to rise above the masses and set an example. Now, I am not saying that what you wrote before wasn't intelligent, I am merely saying that, especially if you style yourself a writer, everything you write should receive the same consideration, i.e. you should care about everything you write.

Good luck with your book. My current setups probably do not meet the standards to be included in your book, but if you decide later to write a book geared towards beginners, I would be happy to contribute.

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Alright so you have a point in two areas. 1) I didn't explain the terms on the post or what type of book that this is geared towards. I guess since I have it posted on dendroboard.com that I shouldn't assume that everyone hear has read it on that site. And, 2) I guess I should keep clean, well written comments when writing in the forums, considering I am a writer.

For the rest of your comments, a professional writer, which I know I am not there yet, should know to always use someone else to edit their work due to the very reasons that you have posted in your comment. I truly believe in it, because if I spend 3 months no stop working on a project that will help others as well as being dedicated to a whole group of people, there is no way that I want to look foolish and be ridiculed by it. If someone does it differently and are stubborn enough to not use a second or third party would be foolish.

I wish I could compensate everyone for the hard work or even hand them a free copy of the book, but at the moment we can not do it. There are a lot of factors that are involved that make it hard for us to do so. Now if this beginner's guide works out and I have enough money to send out copies on the second run (meaning, the next animal guide that we will write), then I would definitely give away some copies, if I can. But until then, the best I can do is what I have been doing. Everyone who has donated their photos, etc. has received a very fair contract, personal recognition and any advertising for their personal business if applicable. I know I have not put any of this in the original post, but most people who are generally interested have sent emails or posted any questions that have come my way.

I am not saying this to be rude or mean, but never assume anything. IE: You can't be sure... Always ask if you are unclear about something and also if you have suggestions or comments about how someone writes you might want to take a diplomatic approach rather than an abrupt one. I know I have at least assumed once in this comment.

For the rest of the world, I like to give you some details that I have forgotten to mention.

1) This is a beginner's guide to Poison Dart Frogs
A) Subjects include history, different types of frogs, care, vitamins, etc.
2) All photos and write ups, etc. will be accredited to the owner. There is a small contract that will be issued that will state clear boudaries for the use of the photos given. Also, everyone who has sent in their photos, etc. will be asked how they would like to be accredited and it will appear in the book as replied by the owner.
3) We have several cooperate sponsors as well as non-profit organizations helping support us.
4) With every copy that is sold, a small portion goes to amphibian conservation.

Any other questions please ask or email me at atlfrog@atlfrog.com Thanks.

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hey merek just came across this post on the forum, i was gonna let you know that i did alittle more work on my 29gal viv today and took another pic of it, i dont know why but my camera just dosent take good pics through glass, but i will keep taking more pics as i get more of it done.
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