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Old 01-22-2009, 10:33 AM
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How about extra proteins in the water? Just like the skimmers I used to use in my old salt water tanks?
honestly, i will say this is possible. i don't see it lasting for days though. if you are feeding (cycling) the tank with something that will cause bubbling like brine shrimp then ok. i think if your tank is recycled and not washed completely then maybe. i can't however see a tank clean to the naked eye being re-used and causing days of bubbling while flowing through any wood. i would think as the wood released tannins 1) the tannins would break it up a little (breaking the protein bond) 2) the wood would soak it up. it was a good thought, but imo not highly likely.

what you described b4 is what i've seen on new screens. kinda looks like protein build up bubbles. maybe more dense, maybe dirtier looking. definitely looks like a science experiment.

edit: anyone trying a build with these products should run some water over them first and see what turns up... that's what i'll be doing!
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I'll check the screen, It came off a full size roll (12 Ft for a Florida porch).

I'll cut a chunk off , ball it up and see if I can make it foam.

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I'll check the screen, It came off a full size roll (12 Ft for a Florida porch).

I'll cut a chunk off , ball it up and see if I can make it foam.

Dan
please keep us informed.
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The bubbles are still there but I am seeing a reduction in the amount of mass. I have been racking my brain hewing all the possible reasons that have been suggested.

I am currently working on 2 tanks and stands. So I decided to take some of the materials I used in the second tank and see if I could get them to foam. Keep in mind , The 29 Gal has a lot of the same Gs and silicone that the hex tank has ; as I finished an area in one tank I would move over to the other tank so I didn't waste product.

I tore out some areas of cured Gs with silicone and some plain Gs out of the hex, I placed this in a clean bucket with a balled up square of screen ( same roll ) and water from the hose (Well water). A 12" air stone has been running in it for a day and a half. I only have a few stray air bubbles so far, they move about for a few seconds then pop. The only other idea I have is to add some Eco earth to the mix.

Anyone have any other ideas I may have missed?

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Old 01-25-2009, 11:59 PM
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if you put your air stone in your regular water (without anything from the viv) do you still get bubbles big enough to pop?

remember the situation has changed... it is no longer getting the turbulance of splashing onto the rocks... it is no longer running through anything that will create any buildup... all you are basically looking for is the bubbles. ad debris, some rocks to splash on and something to impede flow at the surface and you may have found a winner.
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