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Old 06-09-2009, 11:46 PM
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Is this a good set-up for a dart frog or two? Just curious.
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Darts don't swim well at all , and thats a lot of open water...
If this is to be a dart tank against my opinion, I would suggest a big drift wood piece in the water, broad leaf aquatic plants that cover the surface of the water feature. You will need to have escape areas for the frogs before you add any.

My 2nd question would be what kind of darts are you looking at getting?

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That's a pretty nice FBT set-up, but yea not very conducive for PDFs. As stated before, PDFs don't swim at all, so they'll either drown or be stressed from the lack of land area.
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I have 3 fbts in it right now, i've just always been into darts. The green and black ones are my favorite. I am going to be adding a bunch of pennywort to the water.
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I can't tell you what to do, but unless you can get rid of most of that water feature no matter what you do that is not a good PDF set-up and they will stress out. It's not just the fact that it's way too deep and large, but that makes the land area way too small for them, especially Auratus (the green and black ones you speak of) which are one of the larger PDF species. PDFs aern't cheap, so your best bet is making a whole new tank or you might be paying for some soon-to-be-dead frogs.

Also, I trust you're not mixing the FBTs with PDFs, correct??
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I have a question: What are you using to hold up that rock wall? You could easily make a reservoir, and turn that rock into a waterfall, and fill the bottom a few inches with substrate. Then have vines, pieces of drift, strips of bark, or whatever you think would look good so the PDFs can go from top to bottom. I think if you drain the water and throw some moss over the substrate you already have its possible.
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Also, I trust you're not mixing the FBTs with PDFs, correct??
No, I would never mix them.

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I have a question: What are you using to hold up that rock wall?
It's GS with silicone over it. I can't change anything on it without completely re-doing the whole thing.



I was just curious though, I'm not going to change anything I love my toadies and they seem veryyy happy in their new home

Thanks for all the input everyone!
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Yes you can keep some darts in that setup and they wouldn't stress..You would however need to provide some way for them to get out of the water in case they fall in. A few wood pieces or two would serve the purpose..You could also keep some tetras in the water area as well..Check out Dendroboard as a few of the members there have successfully kept dart with water features just as deep...Good luck
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This is definitely one of the most clean and precise tank iv seen, and i love it! how did you make the dividing wall so clean and consistent? do you have a few construction pics you could thro together for a short build log?
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:42 AM
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Sadly I had to take this tank apart. It wasn't working out... sad cuz I really liked it. But oh well. This is the tank now.


http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...e/DSC_1235.jpg


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do you have a few construction pics you could thro together for a short build log?
no, I was too excited to get the tank done to take pics...haha I know I'm dumb.
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