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06-23-2009, 09:31 PM
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Proper temprature for a vivarium
I need a little help here guys.....
I have recently finished the setup of a 55 gallon tank to hold Azureus dart frogs The tank sits at between 83-84 degrees at the moment, and I can't possibly figure out how to drop the temperature and keep the humidity?
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Zip
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Last edited by Zip; 06-26-2009 at 01:05 PM..
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06-25-2009, 11:49 PM
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Nice work, The tank looks great!
I agree, the temps are a bit high for the darts.
I would start with a small fan blowing under the lights horizontally. your light set up looks to be for a reef aquarium and they are notoriously hot. I would guess the fixture has built in fans but they are generally for the ballast heat. I would also ask what your photo period was, any longer than 10 -12 hr will drive the heat up as well.
How Many watts are you pushing?
Dan
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06-26-2009, 11:25 AM
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i am going to have to agree with dan on this completely.
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06-26-2009, 01:05 PM
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Thanks for the compliment!!! It means a lot!
It's a Coralife Freshwater fixture (4 65w bulbs)
only powering 2 of the four bulbs though....
yeah, I guess I'm an idiot.....
Today the temp is around 77 degrees, after lifting the light up off of the glass a bit...
Is there such a fine line between proper temperature and humidity?
The humidity thing I have down
Soon to be ordering six juvenile Dendrobates azureus and a Bromeliad or two....
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06-26-2009, 01:33 PM
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actually a quick decrease in temp usually nets a very obvious increase in humidity as we measure relative humidity. air expands as it gets hot. due to that it can hold more. relative humidity is the measure of a percent of water a pound of air can hold at a certain temp. specific humidity is a measure of how many grains of water there is in a particular pound of air.
this is why warm air brushing across cold glass leaves droplets. the sponge (air) shrinks and cannot hold as much. as it travels away from the glas it is warmed again and ready to pickup another load. it becomes perpetual under the right conditions.
you are doing/should be fine though as you have your setup enclosed and the humidity should stay consistently high unless there is no water at all in there.
if you have any issues someone will be happy to help.
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06-26-2009, 09:20 PM
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I was just going to say the glass lid will keep the humidity up with a mist or two a day...lol
No need to sweat the humidity, The azureus will be very forgiving as long as you stay between 80-100% even a dip below will be accepted by the frogs for a short time. The temps should be 70-80 deg, the frogs you chose are in my opinion a smart move for your first darts. (I'm partial to Leucomelas)
That said, I wanted to be sure you understand as the azures mature you will probable and almost certainly need to separate them in to pairs. Most people see aggression as the frogs near breeding maturity.
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06-26-2009, 09:58 PM
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lol's go back and forth around here. tag... you're it. lol
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06-27-2009, 05:50 PM
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i think i speak for all of us when i say you're very welcomed!
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