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Old 04-08-2010, 11:16 PM
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You can boil and dry the leaves and soak the rock in a solution of bleach water, just rinse it well a few times after soaking it in the bleach mix (Try 20% bleach 80% water). You can also soak everything in water and bake it in the oven at 200 degrees, just make sure you keep an eye on everything so it doesn't burn or catch fire.
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My impression is that bleach sterilizes on contact, and that soaking isn't necessary- someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I might not heat the stone in the oven, either- sometimes they can shatter.
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10 minutes is a suggested minimum soaking time to kill many things regardless what sterilization form is used. it's not necessary for all things, but for some. when diluted times can vary.

options for the stone:
topical treatment for sterilization such as bleach or a biocide or potassium permanganate
power wash
rinse and scrub
wash with mild soap
boil and cool down in the water
sechem excel can be used as a biocide treatment

options for leaf litter:
boil
soak and heat in oven (keep close attention, obviously)
excel and rinse
pp dip and rinse
co2

if you use chemicals at all use the old adage... rinse, rinse, rinse... and do it again.
if you use anything chlorine based definitely dose it 5x's recommended strength with a dechlorinator.
if you boil or bake the rock (baking would not be suggested) be sure to cool it down slowly to lower your chances of shattering.
if you heat the leafs in the oven... don't walk away and risk starting a fire.
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are any types a leafs ok? I have some kinda bush in my front yard that had broad leafs. Could i just pick them off, boil them and tosh them in the tank?
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I'd try and get an ID on the plant first to ensure there's nothing toxic about it.

Also, the reason people suggest oak leaves is because they're really tough and take a long time to decompose- you can use others but they won't last as long.
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Don't be afraid to mist more, darts like it wet. Your substrate shouldn't have "puddles" but plenty of moisture will serve you sell. Make sure you get some leaf litter in there as well. It will help hold moisture, give your frogs somewhere to hide, and help with maintaining good microfuana. Get yourself some springtails, if your tank is wet enough it will mold and they will eat it and help breakdown the frogs droppings when they get out of water. Also you might want to start learning to culture fruit fly's since you have plenty of time with the tads.

BTW: Where did you get the tads?
I got the Tads from a guy who is breading them in the back of his petstore in newton Kansas.
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The little guys are starting to get some yellow/green on their faces. Ill post picks tonight
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well the tads are starting to morph... Everything was going fine until now. Ive lost one frog and afraid i might lose another. only they come out of the water they dont do much at all... they just sit there. Only moving about a inch a day.... Im not sure what im doing wrong. Can anyone give me any pointers?
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i believe that once they come out of the water they do not move much or eat at all because they are absorbing their tales. once their tales are absorbed they will be hungry lil buggers with a tremendous appetite. and they should become much more active to!
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amesome, my wife said that he was moving alot more this morning. I hope he makes it. Kinda sucked losing one.
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