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Old 06-14-2010, 11:56 AM
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If the roach would cooperate Kyle I would do just that. Hell I would just toss him out in the back yard if he was that cooperative. I'm afraid this is war now, hes damaged enough plants.

I tried a water bottle with a few pieces of puppy chow last night. I made the puppy chow damp so it was a soft paste and placed the trap against the feeding station for easy access to the mouth of the bottle. I'll check it again when I get home , I purposely spilled some flies in the bottle this morning in case fruit flies might make the mess a bit more appetizing.

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Keep us informed, this is an interesting story.

Worst case if you can't get the roach catch the frogs and then CO2 the tank.
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Worst case if you can't get the roach catch the frogs and then CO2 the tank.
noooo waaaaaaayyyy, toooooo obvious, lol.
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Catching the frogs was in my mind the worse case scenario, besides which after separating urban myths from fact I'm still left with the obvious.. roaches are tough little bastards to kill. Compounded by the sensitivity of the frogs to common effective treatment has me looking at other alternatives before I resort to moving frogs.

I have questions about whether or not I can produce enough Co2 that will actually kill the roach in the first place. I would be attempting to treat a big Exo Terra witch in its self would be a daunting task to seal it completely, even more so for any length of time.

Obvious is subjective in this scenario, obviously many folks have never attempted to catch thumbnails that didn't wish to be caught.

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not trying to either.
small critters in tight places without chemicals in general is not very fun. i'd hate to be in your shoes attempting to work around thumbnails.

i think here the issue is to build a better trap... that's safe. how do you think they'd fare trapped in with the roach? do you think you could properly identify the roach species? do you think the roach could get in where the frogs can't?

roaches definitely like carrots and oranges. you can use that against them. if that worries you with your frogs you can blend up other fruits/veggies with them to a paste and use that.

some roaches can climb smooth plastic. if your guy can't and he's small enough a 20oz bottle might be fine. if he's a little bigger you'll need a wider bottle so it doesn't just reach to the outside and pull out. if it's a climber you'll need something like ky jelly, vaseline, etc. to make the surface inside too slick for it to escape.

if you can swing it without soaking it you could probably use egg cartons stacked on top of each other to provide security for it like a home it would seek out naturally and just check it every now and then replacing anything that's too wet. when you lift up the egg carton, if it's in there it probably won't want to make a jump for it. it should hold on for dear life actually. that should make it easier to carry away. the texture on egg cartons is perfect for them to hold on to unlike tissue rolls where there's a chance it could fall out. you could probably use foam pieces of egg carton on the top and bottom to avoid extra saturation from viv conditions/misters/etc. too. as long as it can reach the paper portion it'll probably find it an inviting place. a little food in there surely would help your chances i'd think.
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Apparently it is called an American Roach.

I think your idea of the carrots and or fruit with the water bottle will be the next bait I try, after all he seems to like the plants.

I think hitting the inside of the bottle with vaseline is a good idea but the Vaseline make me a touch uncomfortable. ..lol I was just thinking of maybe trying Ky jelly instead (water base I think) Had a mental image of me standing at the counter stammering to the cashier "its for my frogs or ahh well you see ,theres this roach..." Lol

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you just had to enclose a pic.... eeewwwwwww, lol. i HATE those things.
the vaseline seems a little sketchy to me too. apparently some people actually use it so their feeders don't escape though... and it conveyed a message.

you don't have to tell the cashier anything. just pick up a pack of magnum XL's before you check out, pick the cutest cashier and play it cool like nothing's going on. she'll understand, lol.

i don't think they're climbers, but i could be wrong. you might try to ask greg from gregs exotics, he might know. his website is citrusxsandfire.webs.com. he might have a little insight on how to catch the creepy thing too.
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Apparently it is called an American Roach.

I think your idea of the carrots and or fruit with the water bottle will be the next bait I try, after all he seems to like the plants.

I think hitting the inside of the bottle with vaseline is a good idea but the Vaseline make me a touch uncomfortable. ..lol I was just thinking of maybe trying Ky jelly instead (water base I think) Had a mental image of me standing at the counter stammering to the cashier "its for my frogs or ahh well you see ,theres this roach..." Lol

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Classic that it is going in my book for top 10 reasons to buy lube.... "its for my frogs or ahh well you see ,theres this roach..." Lol
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Round 2

Carrot peels with a pinch of sugar..12 oz water bottle .. No Ky Jelly .. I will try the lubricant after I see some evidence of successful baiting, only then will you hear of my confidant interaction with the cashier// Correction// The hottest Cashier.

P.S. Two day old wet puppy chow smells like crap.. I can think of better 4 letter words, but you get the idea.

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There was this one night that I couldn't sleep (I get bouts of insomnia here and there) so I decided to go to the store and pick up a myriad of household items that we needed... but, when put together, they became quite awkward.

Keep in mind that an extremely hairy/bearded/bum-looking guy is buying this at around 3am :
1) Condoms... the value/mixed pack from Durex... it was cheapest for the most and interesting
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3) Latex gloves (I had just used the last ones making a batch of habanero salsa)
4) Elbow length kitchen gloves (I was doing some tar/insulation foam/sealant work in the attic)
5) Pringles (sounded good)
6) 12pk of mtn dew (went with pringles, sounded good)
7) Roll of duck tape (I was working on pipes, duck tape makes a good sealant until the glue dries)
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9) Some catfish bloodbait - I was going spearfishing the next day
10) Bugspray (I was going to be camping when I was spearfishing)

Yeah... what cracked me up was that the girl ringing up my order didn't flinch or say a thing... she just scanned it all, bagged it, and gave me the total... a true night worker : D
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