Help!!! Am I freaking out for no reason???

Est. 1983 · #1 08-08-2010, 11:09 AM

I went to feed my dart froglet this morning like i always do every morning...I noticed his water dish was low on water...so i grabbed my hand mister and started spraying water into the dish which the froglet was resting on the side of...when he didn't move when i started spray i began to freak out...so i stopped and went to see if he would move when i put my finger near him...he didn't move, which made me freak out even more...so i tried to pick him up...got him on my finger...this is where i really started to lose it...finally he jumped off my finger and back into his container...but now he really isn't moving...he is still in the same place where he landed...i thought he would want to hunt the fruit flies but he hasn't...he is just sitting there...my question being, is my dart okay and i am freaking out for no reason...or is there something really wrong and i need to do something...please hurry and let me know something asap...I am freaking out and am on the edge of my seat...

UPDATE: I just checked on him and he is still the same...i took one of my terrarium lights and put on top of his sterlite container so i can get a better look...i noticed that a fruit fly was crawling on him and he didn't even seem to care...i don't know what is going on...it seems like he don't have an appetite...I am so worried...

beckdg · #2 08-08-2010, 01:33 PM

he may be predating on the leftovers you don't see. then again a still frog is something to think about. what are the temps in his setup? humidity? night and day... high and low.

tell us as much as you can about the froglet. your habits would be a great place to start. what time do you feed him. how much do you feed him. is he active usually? does he normally freak when he gets wet? what are you using to measure temps and rh? whatever you can think of whether it sounds related, useful... or not. have you done fecals, testing, lamisil treatment, etc., etc.. do you notice any new markings? is he getting thin? is he obviously lethargic... or just don't feel like being bothered today?

Est. 1983 · #3 08-08-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by beckdg

he may be predating on the leftovers you don't see. then again a still frog is something to think about. what are the temps in his setup? humidity? night and day... high and low.

tell us as much as you can about the froglet. your habits would be a great place to start. what time do you feed him. how much do you feed him. is he active usually? does he normally freak when he gets wet? what are you using to measure temps and rh? whatever you can think of whether it sounds related, useful... or not. have you done fecals, testing, lamisil treatment, etc., etc.. do you notice any new markings? is he getting thin? is he obviously lethargic... or just don't feel like being bothered today?

this might sound real stupid, but what is "predating?" Since he is in a sterlite container i don't usually put a temp/hygrometer in with him...but since this happened today i put one in with him this morning...the temp has been around 83.6 degrees and the humidity around 79-82% rh

I don't remember who told me...but i was told or read somewhere that i didn't really need to put a temp/hygrometer in there since the sterlite containers hold humidity and temp pretty well...

I usually feed him once in the morning around 8 or 9 a.m. and then once in the afternoon around 4 or 5 p.m....I have never actually sprayed him with water so i don't know how he reacts to being sprayed...

This morning I put the two dial temperature and hygrometers that came with my exo-terra terrarium...

I haven't done any testings of any sort...

The past couple of days he has been looking a little thin...but he is small so i don't know if its just because he is small...

Usually he will move if i reach into the container to move a leaf or something...but today he didn't want to move at all...I will say this...i just kind of glanced in the container to check the temp/rh and he isn't just laying on his belly...he has actually propped himself up so he isn't laying on his belly anymore...

beckdg · #4 08-08-2010, 04:16 PM

predators predate... eating.

meters are important one way or another. even snake keepers keep them... even if it's just in the room as opposed to each setup. plus he's new to you...

what is he taking as far as food... how much?

the meters that come with the exo-terras cannot be relied upon solely.

he may be settling in to his new environment, startled... or just not hungry. it happens. take it easy and keep us as informed as you have the ability to.

boabab95 · #5 08-08-2010, 08:18 PM

83 is a little high. It should be in the 70's... Also, If possible, try making it BIT more humid, like 85-95%(either by misting or if you really want, a fog/mist system).

Other than that, there isn't really anything else that I can think of.

Est. 1983 · #6 08-09-2010, 02:18 PM

well...I got home from my kickball games last night and found my lil guy dead

i'm so sad...I don't know if i wanna get another dart frog...

froggsong · #7 08-09-2010, 02:35 PM

I'm so sorry for your loss, Est. It's hard to lose one of your critters.

beckdg · #8 08-09-2010, 02:40 PM

sorry to hear.

Calebrez · #9 08-09-2010, 04:42 PM

Awe man I'm sorry to hear that Ur lil critter passed.:-( do not lose hope now! I lost 2 of my 7 red eyes with no.known symptoms they were fine one day and croaked the next (no pun intended lol ) but i.have.also learned so much since then. You can't let it get you down.

RecycledAgain · #10 08-09-2010, 07:25 PM

Hmm.. Your comments on size lead me to think you bought very a young frog.. very young frogs are not hardy. Losing froglets sucks,, but it happens and many times for no apparent reason.

I would take a good hard look at temps and humidity along with feeding, if you take a shot at caring for Dendrobates again. I would also recommend sub adults as the next purchase.

As a side note can you Pm me the name of the folks that sold the froglet to you?

Dan