A guitar for my frog...? - Page 2

Yemeyana · #11 01-13-2011, 07:31 PM

OKAY:
I may have found a way to make the guitar-viv work and be frog-suitable...!

Make a suitably-sized hole in the back of the guitar.
Make a same-sized hole in the front of a frog-suitable tank (custom-made or otherwise, but I'm still mostly thinking in the creative stages now).
Attach them together, covering hole and join in natural-looking clay (or whatever the background material is).

Then all I do is set it up, run it frogless until I think I can handle them, and then add darts!

This way, they get a nice home with an interesting alcove, I get to sometimes see frogs in a guitar, and ...you guys get the peace of mind knowing the frogs aren't cramped.

This all depending on nobody spotting some flaw or another in the plan. So what do you think?

boabab95 · #12 01-13-2011, 07:35 PM

Honestly, while a great idea!, I think the frog will either LIVE (not go between) in the guitar OR the tank. I think it's be best just to use the tank, and set up the guitar as a terrarium...Infact I have an idea for the guitar (if you don't mind me showing you... Gotta photoshop it, but need to prep for exams first...)

Yemeyana · #13 01-13-2011, 08:41 PM

Okay.
By all means, show me

I am in anticipation.

(Also, I may end up saving up and buying an old, beaten-up double bass at some point... ;] )

boabab95 · #14 01-13-2011, 11:47 PM

So, keep in Mind It's a VERY rough photoshopping job, but i'll explain it as well...
First, coat the inside with an epoxy (aquarium epoxy is best, dunno where to get it)
So, basically, you'd use the top 3-4''for lighting, use the guitar face, but install a fan into the "side" (now top) of the guitar, to compensate for heat.

then layer the lowest point with peagravel (or sand, or anything you really want) to form a small pond like features, then using driftwood and GS (expanding polyurethane foam) create a bank and have some smaller growing things (cryptanthus, selaginella, pilea, peperomia, stuff like that) growing up the bank, and have a fast growing vine (maybe F.pumila?) growing up the back.

Oh and you could put some small aquatics (anubias nana and mini microsword comes to mind, even riccia) in the pond...

Again, this is just a suggestion, based on what I would do...

Yemeyana · #15 01-14-2011, 12:13 AM

I like that idea!

In fact my one issue with it is my ONLY issue with it... the space. I'll have to see how the cabin ends up being laid out, but it would definitely be better space-wise and, personally, visually if it were upright. It could also sit easily on a stand.

I'll try to make a mock up of what I think, perhaps tomorrow.
I also think that lighting might be able to attach to the bottom of the fretboard.

They're both ideas with pros and cons; like I said, I'll consider them both and make a final decision closer to the time.

Grimm · #16 01-14-2011, 10:02 AM

I think it would be awesome if you made the entire front face out of glass, and then mounted the normal guitar strings and stuff in their normal position on the front. The only problem I see is actually getting inside to be able to do the normal chores needed to keep it looking its best. And what about strenght? Can the thin wood even handle the weight of rocks and dirt?

Yemeyana · #17 01-14-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimm

I think it would be awesome if you made the entire front face out of glass, and then mounted the normal guitar strings and stuff in their normal position on the front. The only problem I see is actually getting inside to be able to do the normal chores needed to keep it looking its best. And what about strenght? Can the thin wood even handle the weight of rocks and dirt?

Well, I would imagine that the tension of the strings would be a little unsafe. I could use something that looks like the strings, in which case they could be easily removed for maintenance.

As for strength, I think that would be a trial-and-error process. I might be able to find some way to reinforce it if needed.

defiantNX · #18 01-19-2011, 09:01 PM

I think the guitar would be a good idea. I would love to see it and despite what others are saying, I think it would be big enough for one or two thumbnail dart frogs. Especially if you can find some really nice miniature plants for it. The waterfall would be really cool. What you could do is custom make a guitar shaped cage. You could make the entire thing out of plexiglass or another type of clear material. You could make the cage bigger so you have more room to work with. As for lighting, you could get some led lights and put them on a timer. Line the edge of the inside with the lights. Get rope led lights like the christmas kind. It would be awesome if you could hang it on the wall. And if you decide not to put frogs in it, you could just make it into a really nice terrarium.

boabab95 · #19 01-19-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by defiantNX

I think the guitar would be a good idea. I would love to see it and despite what others are saying, I think it would be big enough for one or two thumbnail dart frogs.

You have to keep in mind ( I have a VERY similar guitar) that it's only like 12-18'' long, 6-8''across and 3-4'' deep/thick. that's 1 to 3 gallons, which might be enough for a tadpole. that's very little space for a frog. Which is why I still think it would be perfect for a terrarium (plants only)

Although, I must say, the LED rope is actually a pretty good idea!!!!

defiantNX · #20 01-20-2011, 04:02 PM

Most sources recommend 2 and a half gallons per thumbnail dart frog so that's why I think it would be big enough. Maybe he can make an attachement for the front of the guitar that would make the guitar deeper. When I had thumbnail dart frogs, the container they were in was not even a gallon. The species I had was Dendrobate Vermiculatus. Either way, I think it would look really cool with plants in it lol. It doesn't have to have dart frogs in it to be beautiful. Maybe you can get some plastic dart frogs LOL