I got a few items today for the viv

[smaug]

I got a muffin fan to help keep a good airflow and even humidity and I got a repti red night light so I can see my frogs with out backround light.The fan is doing a great job already ,my humidity is down from 80-90% to an even 75%.

[froggsong]

Just for future reference, you can just buy a red light bulb instead. They are like three times as much as they used to be, but they are still alot cheaper than the red reptile bulbs at my pet store.
What is a muffin fan exactly?
I have a tiny desk fan blowing across the vent in the top of my frog vive to keep the air from stagnating, and I have issues with it lowering the humidity too much (doesn't help with the temp either... I need to get the temp up about 5 degrees in there).

[smaug]

This little led gizmo was only 10 bucks and has the benefit of not creating any extra heat and it is very small,overall much better then a incandescent bulb fixture.Muffin fans are the small fans they put in computer cases.It didn't go very well,overnight it dehydrated my anubias coffeefolia!I still want to use it,but it needs to be on a timer so it can be ran intermittently.The anubias will snap back the life is still in the rhizome.

[froggsong]

You can regulate the amount of electricity going to the fan to make it run more slowly and circulate the air less (but still keep it from stagnating). I thought you might be talking about the pc fans, I've just never heard them referred to that way... I was wondering if you had some different kind... lol, silly me.
I didn't realize that your light was an LED. I actually currently use red lights at night for heat in my tanks (as well as viewing), I plan to switch to under tank heat of some sort soon, it is a little difficult to keep the temps regulated in my house without climate control. I think it would be much easier on me AND the herps if I switch to under tank heat and put it on a thermostat.

[smaug]

I will be going with an undr tank heater myself when the temps cool off.Question about them,are there any that have a thermostat,all the ones I looked at seem to either be off or on nothing in between.

[froggsong]

From what I understand, you have to either hook them up to a rheostat (same thing you need for the fan) and adjust it manually until you get the right temp (and then keep up with it to make sure the temp is constant) OR you have to hook it up to a thermostat. I want to look up how to do a thermostat, and what kind to use for it so I can do it that way (unless I decide to go with a "people" heating pad for now instead, hopefully I can find one of those with a built in thermostat. They even make them with a digital thermostat.). They also make "heat tape", but about all I know about it is that it is available. I will be researching it shortly.
If you have a FB in your tank (can't remember atm) you can just use an adjustable aquarium heater, it heats the water (both in a pond area and under the land), effectively heating the cage (as well as adding to humidity).

[smaug]

I have tree frogs.I had originally wanted to use an aquarium heater but I neglected to make a spot to put it in later.Without a complete tear down I cant get to the reservoir to make room for one.I have some time to figure what to do,right now I'm more concerned about cooling it down then heating it up.I bought a digital timer today with thought of using it to run the fan intermittently but I cant figure out how to program the stupid thing.

[froggsong]

Controlling temps is frustrating... I am having a heck of a time keeping the temps in my BP enclosure steady. I think the thermometer/hygrometer I bought may be defective, I was just standing in front if it and it said the temps were in the 60's and then it magically jumped back up to the 80's where it is supposed to be... I didn't change anything either. I've never used an UTH before, and I really don't want to cook my snake.