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Old 05-13-2010, 12:54 PM
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Just thought I'd point out this bit so that it's a little easier to read:
Ha! I didn't even notice that. Good one.
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Old 05-13-2010, 04:07 PM
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What can we do to prevent the government from completely shutting down this hobby?

Hey Beck your an active USARK member is there any link you can provide to voice our opinions?
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:40 PM
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got this...

USARK Public Comment/ 30 Day Extension

Public Comment on the Proposed Rule Change by US Fish & Wildlife to add nine constrictor snakes to the Injurious Wildlife list of the Lacey Act closed at midnight last night. To everyone who took the time to comment... THANK YOU!!! This unprecedented and controversial rule making, if enacted, would devastate the Reptile Nation and set dangerous precedent for the future.



Never before has a listing of this nature been proposed for animals that are so widely held by the American public. The implications for ball pythons, leopard geckos and bearded dragons are ominous. Anyone who thinks this was about big snakes is dead wrong. This is about the ideology of powerful special interest groups, and an attempt to misuse the Lacey Act to end the ownership of all non-native animals in the United States. The nine constrictors are just a test balloon. The rule making process will begin in June to list ALL amphibians. Ornamental fish will not be far behind.



Click here to read USARK Public Comment: http://usark.org/uploads/USARK%20Pub...le%20USFWS.pdf



Public Comment Reopened
USARK’s request for extension of Public Comment on the proposed Rule Change by USFWS will be honored. We filed our request for a 90 extension at the end of April and were backed by two ranking members of congress. Although preliminary indications were that our request would be rejected, it is now confirmed that it will be honored. Another 30 day public comment period will be re-opened with a posting in the Federal Register late this week. If you are one of the many who did not make comment by the deadline last night, you may get a second opportunity!



This whole thing could very well end in a federal lawsuit filed by USARK against the US Fish & Wildlife Service. We have the facts and science on our side. USARK filed a 36 page Request for Correction under the Information Quality Act with the US Geological Survey regarding their report: Giant constrictors: biological and management profiles and an establishment risk assessment for nine large species of pythons, anacondas, and the boa constrictor. There is no longer any question about the problems USGS has with this poorly written report.



***The costs to engage in a lawsuit with USFWS will be considerable. Please consider donating to help the Reptile Nation defeat this proposed rule making. Even $5-10 will help. A more generous donation will help even more!





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Old 05-13-2010, 06:40 PM
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and this....

RED ALERT: Last Chance Public Comment!

***Deadline Tuesday May 11, 2010*** for Public Comment on the US Fish & Wildlife Service proposed rule adding nine constrictor snakes to the Injurious Wildlife list of the Lacey Act. It is imperative that as many people as possible make comment prior to the deadline. Failure to do so could result in wholesale destruction of the Reptile Nation!

It is highly suggested that your comments be original and written by you. There are guidelines at Kill-Rule Change. However, there seems to be confusion about ‘How To’ and ‘Where To’ make comment. The following is ‘step by step’ on how to make a fast and easy comment:

1. Go to the government portal: Regulations.gov
2. Fill in the fields for Name, Country, City and Postal Code. Ignore the rest of the fields.
3. Copy the Sample Letter below. Modify it with your own comments (HIGHLY SUGGESTED). Save it into a Word, Works, Note Pad or PDF file. Click the Browse button on the Attach File field and download your file. (you can not cut & paste more than 2000 characters into govt portal)
4. If you are a business copy Sample Letter onto company letterhead and save as a Word, Works, Note Pad or PDF file. Click the Browse button on the Attach File field and download your file. (if you are NOT a business skip step 4)
5. Click Submit button. Your Done! (If you are successful you will get a confirmation number)

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U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
Division of Policy and Directives Management
Attn: Docket No. FWS-R9-FHC-2008-0015
4401 N. Fairfax Drive, Suite 222
Arlington, VA 22203

RE: Docket No. FWS-R9-FHC-2008-0015

Dear U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service,

As a supporter of the United States Association of Reptile Keepers (USARK) and someone who is concerned about the environment, I am writing today to OPPOSE the proposed rule to list nine species of large constrictor snakes as injurious (75 Fed. Reg. 11808-11829 (March 12, 2010)).

CONTROVERSIAL
As you know, in 2009 the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) released a highly controversial report on nine snake species. This internal report was NOT peer reviewed science. It is riddled with mistakes, inaccuracies, misrepresentations and unsupportable assumptions. The USARK has filed a 36 page Request for Correction with the USGS under the Information Quality Act. In a letter to the Senate Environmental & Public Works Committee a panel of 11 acclaimed scientists called the report “not scientific” and “not suitable as the basis for legislative or regulatory policy”. This poorly done report is the only “science” that supports the proposed rule.

UNPRECEDENTED
If enacted, this rule making would have the unprecedented effect of putting as many as a million American citizens in possession of Injurious Wildlife and subject to potential felony prosecution under the Lacey Act. It could effectively create a new class of criminal out of law abiding American citizens. Never has the USFWS attempted to list such a large group of animals that are widely held by the American public.

SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC IMPACT
USFWS does not possess the information needed to do a credible Initial Regulatory Flexibility Analysis (IRFA) on proposed rules regarding constrictor snakes. In its report, dated February 10, 2010, USFWS relied on baseless assumptions and extrapolations and it ignored information submitted by industry participants and trade associations in response to its 2008 Notice of Inquiry. In addition, the Service misused the information it was provided by respondents to the notice. Therefore, the Service’s regulatory flexibility analysis is not a complete, reliable, or convincing analysis of the impact of the proposed rule on small businesses involved in the buying and selling of the nine snake species included in the proposed rule. The IFRA grossly underestimates the scope of the impact of the proposed regulations.

ALTERNATIVES
USFWS has failed to explore suitable alternatives to Lacey Act listing. There is a plethora of ideas on how to address the issue of invasive species that are for more pragmatic and less damaging than the Lacey Act. It was the consensus opinion at the recent US House Committee on Natural Resources Hearing on Invasive Species that Lacey Act was an ineffectual tool for addressing this issue. State/Local Risk Assessment combined with industry Best Management Practices (BMP) was suggested by Dr. Frank Mazzotti of the University of Florida. (His is a unique perspective because he is the one responsible for the radio tracking of pythons in the Everglades National Park.) USARK has developed an Accreditation utilizing BMP’s that have passed into state law in North Carolina and are currently pending in SC. They are also being considered by GA, LA, CA and VA. USFWS has an obligation to explore viable alternatives. To date they have not.

It is clear that the USFWS has not thoroughly considered the full implications this proposed rule making would have. Further it is clear that USFWS has not given the due diligence required to enact such a controversial, unprecedented and draconian measure. It is clear that if enacted the proposed rule would negatively impact as many as a million Americans. The limited effectiveness of the Lacey Act as a means to control invasive species means that if enacted the stated intent of the rulemaking would never be realized. Nothing would change on the ground in south Florida. The only effect would be to destroy the captive propagation and trade of animal's already in captivity all across the country.

Please stop the proposed rule to restrict the trade in nine species of constrictors.

Thank you for your consideration.

4 days ago...
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Old 05-14-2010, 10:49 PM
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this certainly is a guise.
and to think i deleted my post before i posted it about them slipping one right under our noses...

got this a couple minutes ago...

Special Interests Push For S373

While all of the Reptile Nation was focused on making public comment on the proposed Rule Change, Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL), under pressure from the Humane Society of the United States, Defenders of Wildlife & The Nature Conservancy, added Senate Bill 373, aka Python Ban, to the Senate legislative calendar. These organizations fear the shaky science fielded by US Fish & Wildlife Service and US Geological Survey is not holding up under close scrutiny in the wake of a 36 page Information Quality Act challenge filed by USARK.

Attempting a legislative 'End Run', Senator Nelson is likely trying to get S373 added to the ‘Unanimous Consent’ calendar. The bill could be brought to the Senate floor and passed by unanimous consent as soon as Monday afternoon. But for unanimous consent to work there can be no objections by Senate members.

When USARK found out about this move by Senator Nelson we immediately contacted the offices of Senator Jim Inhoffe (R-OK) and Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK). Both of these stalwart Senators have opposed S373. Senator Inhoffe who is also the Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on the Environment & Public Works (EPW) cast an opposing vote when S373 passed out of the EPW Committee. USARK also urged key Oklahoma constituents to contact these Senators personally to ask that a ‘Hold’ be placed on the bill blocking it from the ‘Unanimous Consent’ calendar. Senator Coburn’s office has agreed to ‘Block’ S373 by raising an objection.

USARK believes that the issue represented by S373 is a states issue. A problem that has occurred in only 3 counties of south Florida does not merit federal legislation. This legislation would devastate thousands of businesses and American families during a time of economic hardship. USARK and the Reptile Nation would like to give a heart felt thanks to Senators Inhoffe and Coburn for standing up for small business and states rights; especially Senator Coburn for agreeing to take action to stop this unfair bill. Thank you very much!

Stay tuned for developments as they happen… There is Strength in Numbers... Protect Your Rights!

interesting... blatantly interesting...

the humane society will get no more of my business...
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Old 05-14-2010, 11:21 PM
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nice link... i should not have clicked, lol.
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i knew i didn't want to know.

yes it is. yes it is...
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"permits may be issued for scientific, medical, educational, or zoological purposes."
Sadly, the first thought that enters my mind from this quote is from the ""drug war"" (before the term was coined) on marijuana (I'm not a pothead... I'm just well read : ).

To start the "war", federal tax stamps were required for anyone to legally sell pot... which the federal government refused to issue. So, by "legitimizing" the sale of a substance (with their approval) and then refusing to provide approval to any entity, it was made illegal.

Keep that in mind... it's a good trick.

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