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Old 07-28-2010, 02:43 PM
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I plan to go the grout way also and would like to know if it has to be soaked in vinegar/water like concrete does.
The froggie people think it does need to be soaked. The gecko people do not.


Quick crete? Or grout? - Dendroboard


Has anyone tried drylock?
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from Curing concrete – Dendroboard | All About Indoor/Outdoor Speakers
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Yes unfortunately the grout should be cured as well. it is basically a concrete product and because the tank environment is very moist and humid, your grout / concrete will continue to hydrate or cure for a period of time, whether you have a water feature or not.

When cement / concrete is “curing” it is actually absorbing water molecules, ie. hydrating. After about 28 days in a moist environment it will be mostly finished hydrating or curing (cement actually keeps hydrating VERY slowly for an indefinite period). As concrete and grout hydrates they release calcium oxide and calcium hydroxide which are two forms of kalkwasser. The leaching out of these by products are the main cause of the high pH swings which will end up overdosing your tank which is likely to kill your plants and animals. The kalkwasser will leach out whether you have a water feature or not.

Sorry that is not what you want to hear, but knowing should prevent you from losing plants and animals. That is if you properly cure the grout.

All the vinegar does is lower the pH on the grout’s surface, it does not stop the curing, speed up the curing, or eliminate the need for curing.
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I looked all over town for permastone, thinking its a great choice for a damp but not really WET tank (I'm doing a mourning gecko tank) but cannot find any. I think by the time i get it shipped and pay for shipping, I might as well cure the grout.
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That's what I did

Edit, I canceled my unshipped permastone order and used ultraflex 2 and am starting a soak tomorrow
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If I was building a palu, as opposed to a drier viv, I'd not use permastone either!!
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