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02-03-2009, 10:09 AM
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If it hits 78, it is only because the outside temp is that high. It is simply as cool as the house  Since it is winter here, temps range from 70-75 usually indoors.
Kristina
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2.4 Home's Hingeback tortoises and 1.3 Russian Tortoises
1.1 Ball Python
0.0.3 Spotted Salamanders, 1.0 African Clawed Frog, and 0.2.5 Axolotls
3.3 Zebra Finches, 2.2 Diamond Doves, 2.0 Silky Ringneck Doves
4 Cats and a Shar Pei
Tons of Inverts
150, 110, 100, 75, 55, 54, 40, 30, 29, 26, 20, two 10 and two 5 gal aquariums, cleaned weekly!!! Seriously.
Two kids, husband, full time job.
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02-08-2009, 04:10 PM
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You definitely do not need a UTH with any North American salamander species that I am aware of, all of the problems wth salamander care are usually related to heat stress or pollution by toxins. The problem is keeping them cool enough, most salamander species become suspectible to disease only when they are heat stressed.
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02-08-2009, 04:50 PM
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The UTH is for the frog, not the sals. There is enough temperature gradient for the sals to get far away from the UTH, and Froggie hangs out in the corner where they are mounted.
Kristina
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2.4 Home's Hingeback tortoises and 1.3 Russian Tortoises
1.1 Ball Python
0.0.3 Spotted Salamanders, 1.0 African Clawed Frog, and 0.2.5 Axolotls
3.3 Zebra Finches, 2.2 Diamond Doves, 2.0 Silky Ringneck Doves
4 Cats and a Shar Pei
Tons of Inverts
150, 110, 100, 75, 55, 54, 40, 30, 29, 26, 20, two 10 and two 5 gal aquariums, cleaned weekly!!! Seriously.
Two kids, husband, full time job.
Kyryah's Tortoise Network
I is not afeared of the Admin!!!! PLUS I eat Moderators for breakfast
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02-12-2009, 10:00 AM
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Catching the Bug
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hey again
have you managed to get any piccys of the eggs or the happy couple, everything still ok i presume.
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02-12-2009, 01:52 PM
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No, no knew pics.
However, I am starting to think they are not fertile. I have seen no activity near the nest, and they are not changing.
I am a little dissapointed, but, if it happened once, it can always happen again, and better luck next time! Not sure where I would have put 7 more sals, anyway, lol.
Kristina
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2.4 Home's Hingeback tortoises and 1.3 Russian Tortoises
1.1 Ball Python
0.0.3 Spotted Salamanders, 1.0 African Clawed Frog, and 0.2.5 Axolotls
3.3 Zebra Finches, 2.2 Diamond Doves, 2.0 Silky Ringneck Doves
4 Cats and a Shar Pei
Tons of Inverts
150, 110, 100, 75, 55, 54, 40, 30, 29, 26, 20, two 10 and two 5 gal aquariums, cleaned weekly!!! Seriously.
Two kids, husband, full time job.
Kyryah's Tortoise Network
I is not afeared of the Admin!!!! PLUS I eat Moderators for breakfast
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02-12-2009, 02:03 PM
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But if the eggs weren't fertile, wouldn't they have become moldy by now? I have this vague memory that infertile eggs mold faster/more easily; fertile eggs apparently produce something that is antifungal. Could be wrong, though--that's a really vague memory!
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02-12-2009, 02:13 PM
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I really have no idea, myself. I haven't removed them, they are still there, I am going to wait and see what happens.
They are still nice and plump and not odd colored, I can say that much.
Kristina
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2.4 Home's Hingeback tortoises and 1.3 Russian Tortoises
1.1 Ball Python
0.0.3 Spotted Salamanders, 1.0 African Clawed Frog, and 0.2.5 Axolotls
3.3 Zebra Finches, 2.2 Diamond Doves, 2.0 Silky Ringneck Doves
4 Cats and a Shar Pei
Tons of Inverts
150, 110, 100, 75, 55, 54, 40, 30, 29, 26, 20, two 10 and two 5 gal aquariums, cleaned weekly!!! Seriously.
Two kids, husband, full time job.
Kyryah's Tortoise Network
I is not afeared of the Admin!!!! PLUS I eat Moderators for breakfast
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02-12-2009, 02:16 PM
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OK, cool. If they are fertile, you may see a dark spot developing in them--the eye of the baby. This happens with some species, but not all, and I am only speculating that it might occur with these because of the photo you posted.
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02-13-2009, 04:46 AM
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Catching the Bug
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i dont think u will see any change, if memory serves me right i think they stay a white-ish colour. trust me if they hatch getting rid of them wont be an issue just place an add on any amphibian forum or website and people will probably be hammering down your door lol.
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02-24-2009, 07:08 PM
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Any updates, Kyryah? Are the eggs still ok?
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