Substitute Material for Eco Web or Epi Web

[Poker1]

Any one have any success using Eco Web or Epi Web in there System? How about any other materials that are less expensive that have similar characteristics? Please give insite to any success or problems. I have heard mention of scouring pads being similar!?! I want to do a living BG and have found little on the subject here.

Thanks for any comments...

[beckdg]

i don't think anyone who has used one or the other has had any issues really.

if you find an equivalent that's less expensive please let us know. as far as i know noone has found one.

yes, scouring pads are very similar in make-up. the thing is both of those products are just recycled plastic weaved into web-like mats/pads/etc..

lately i will have to agree there has not been many discussions on living b/g's per say. there is plenty here though. that's for sure. check out the stickies and builds by harrywhitmore. it used to be commonplace to have conversations about placing planters in the b/g, mounting epyphites, placing drippers for watering the b/g, etc..

there's also tree fern or coir panels and sheets if you can get ahold of them too. i think the scouring pads will in most cases be a pain adhering each one individually and wind up looking unnatural.

[Epiphile]

Though I haven't used Epi/Ecoweb personally (yet), I've found that epiphytes will grow on most material provided conditions are right (humidity, etc.).

And from what I've read, the creator of Epiweb claims that his material differs in a few ways to the scouring pads mentioned- how negligible the differences are might well be experimented on.

[brp4e.]

I've got EcoWeb, i just haven't tried i out yet, I'm waiting to buy a misting system before i do. So ill post when everything is done.

[Epiphile]

How was your experience buying from FRO, brp4e? Did you have to pay that brokerage fee they mentioned on the site? How much material did you get?

[Poker1]

Yes I agree about the scouring pads being a stretch. I do plan on continuing the hunt for a more natural looking alternative! I am trying to be thrifty, I have no budget to work with and way too many needs (ok, ok wants). Here is a couple sites I found while researching the topic...

The Robertson Biowall | The Robertson Building

Epiweb

[brp4e.]

in that biowall they used like the exact same stuff as ecoweb. If you really want it to look natural, get a misting system and then use java or riccia moss. that stuff grows like crazy, then you just add your broms and what not.

[brp4e.]

Originally Posted by Epiphile

How was your experience buying from FRO, brp4e? Did you have to pay that brokerage fee they mentioned on the site? How much material did you get?

the whole thing cost 30$ with shipping and all of that and im out here in BC, Canada. I got enough for the floor of my 18x18x24 and probably enough for a 12x12x14

[beckdg]

Originally Posted by Poker1

Yes I agree about the scouring pads being a stretch. I do plan on continuing the hunt for a more natural looking alternative! I am trying to be thrifty, I have no budget to work with and way too many needs (ok, ok wants). Here is a couple sites I found while researching the topic...

The Robertson Biowall | The Robertson Building

Epiweb

interesting... and led me to do some searching myself. i found this... http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/par...-concerns.html

i recommend reading through the entire thread.

[Epiphile]

I believe that that Robertson Biowall is something along the lines of what this fellow's doing: VERTICAL GARDEN PATRICK BLANC MURS VEGETAUX

It's basically a felt-like material that makes up the hydrated part of the structure. I believe. An interesting concept, and probably something worth experimenting with.

Whoa- that Robertson building's just down the road from me! I'll go and have a look at that this week, I do believe. I'll let you guys know.