water and animal proofing styrofoam - Page 4

froggsong · #31 (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 05:47 PM

I'd actually recommend small minnows if you can find them (catch them if you live in an area where you can find them, but be sure to quarantine them first), white clouds from the pet store, or mountain minnows (again, if you can find them, some pet stores carry them). All of these will do fine in shallow water, no lower than 2 inches. The minnows will like fairly quickly moving water, but shouldn't require it. FBTs prefer almost standing water (I use a dripping filter system that keeps the water moving and filtering, without agitating it so that the frogs don't notice it's moving so much), so you don't want it moving too quickly for them.

With guppies, you'd have to go with common guppies to use shallow water. I currently have a couple of common guppy males in water that gets as shallow as three inches, and I have kept several adults in water that was between 3 and four inches deep and occupied about half of a ten gallon. They did quite well and bred some, they were food for my newt from time to time so they didn't have a huge population explosion.

townsley4 · #32 (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 06:34 PM

i probably wont be putting real plants in there, and if i do, it wont be for a while. lol...i wish i had the receipt for these rocks. they are black,red,pink,yellow,blue,green and red. lol i gto more black than any color though. oh well. i guess it will make it look exotic. lol hopefully the frogs wont mind.

townsley4 · #33 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 04:14 PM

i figured out how im gonna do some of the background. ima silicone eggcrate to the back and make land ledges sticking out of it and put moss,or reptile bark ont he ledges, and maybe even silicone the outer edge of lege and silicone bark to it just to help it from falling off. i think ittl look pretty good, crazy..but good lol. i found some of this rolled up reptilef loor mat thing that i can silicone tot he eggcrate or sow it to the eggcrate for the background. ill post pics soon as i get it together to give you guys a better pic

beckdg · #34 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 04:19 PM

reptibark? why not cocofiber and coco croutons? it comes pretty clean and you get a whole lot more for your money!

EDIT: it's basically the same stuff too.

townsley4 · #35 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 04:26 PM

idk ive never messed with it. is that the stuff thats like vacummed packed? how do u use that stuff

beckdg · #36 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 04:50 PM

the cocofiber you just put in a bucket with about a gallon of water and it expands into a nice soil that's not dirty. i usually get about half a 5 gallon bucket full from a single brick. and yes... the brick is the vacuum packed.

the croutons are more like the chunks of bark like the chunks in repti bark. they come in a bag maybe bigger than an 80 pound bag of mortar and weigh about a pound. they can be used as a well draining soil or a drainage layer too.

you can get cocofiber that's already expanded also. it should be easier to dry then a fresh brick.

beckdg · #37 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 09:55 PM

this might make things clearer...
GENERAL HYDROPONICS
Hydroponics - Coco-Dan