GRIMM's Vivarium Build #2 - Page 5

froggsong · #41 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 04:53 PM

phew! Now we're on the same page... So, you've used the silicone method before, right? When you get done with this tank using this method, I want to know which one you like better.

I've tried a variety of different methods, I've even come up with some of my own. The method you're going to use, it's one of my faves for sure (I haven't used it specifically, but it should turn out pretty much exactly the same as the binder method). It looks so natural, and it's easy to grow moss on, to train vines to climb, etc, etc... My guess is that you'll be much happier with this method than the silicone method.

Grimm · #42 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 05:04 PM

Yeah I definately think so too! It looks very consistent and even, hopefully with my different batches I can make it look even more natural.

Ive been searching on web pages of all the major home/tool stores in my area.
Rona, Home Depot, Home Hardware, Canadian Tire...None have Titebond.

I'll be making a few phone calls incase they dont have it on there website....How terrible would it be now that I finally have everything figured out to not be able to buy the stuff haha

I'm also gonna try a few woodworking shops, they have to carry the stuff.

I did however come across a familiar name brand that I have herd before...Gorilla Glue. Is this essentially the same knock-off product as Titebond?

froggsong · #43 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 05:14 PM

No, it isn't the same at all. It foams, and you don't want that. You want something that you can mix with stuff.

Home Depot carries it here, as well as Lowe's.

TiteBond III Ultimate Wood Glue

Make sure you get the right one. Neither of the other two are waterproof. Hopefully that link will show up for you. I know that's at my local store, but it does show that Home Depot carries it. Hopefully they carry it in YOUR neck of the woods.

Epiphile · #44 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 05:22 PM

Titebond III® - Lee Valley Tools

Grimm · #45 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 05:25 PM

I actually called Home Depot (Lowes hasnt made its way up to Edmonton just yet) and they dont carry it up here...But for anyone else in Canada looking for Titebond Ultimate III Wood Glue you can find it at Lee Valley Tools stores...Maybe we should add it to the good places to buy list.

Edit: Looks like Epiphile beat me to the punch lol

froggsong · #46 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 05:27 PM

Just pop over to that thread and post it, I'm sure beck will add it to the top. Perhaps we need to start a separate thread for you Canadian folks.

Grimm · #47 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by froggsong

Just pop over to that thread and post it, I'm sure beck will add it to the top. Perhaps we need to start a separate thread for you Canadian folks.

That could be a good idea however I think the majority of things can be found at the same places for both canadians and americans (excluding the oddballs like the glue). I think the issues present themselves more often when people across the pond are looking for something that we use, and vice versa.

froggsong · #48 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 05:54 PM

Dang it... that was weird, hit post and my browser loaded some link...

Anyway...

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I've used both as well as some other brand I don't remember. I have never seen that one is any better than the other. The important thing is to know whether to thin the stuff as others have said. If what you use is thick like Elmer's glue, then thin it with water. If it pours out like milk, then use it as it is. It is also important to let the finished product dry completely before putting it into service. From what I can gather, the bonder doesn't cure, it just dries. And if you add moisture before it is completely dry and set, it just serves to dilute the bonder.

I think this may have been the problem with mine falling apart. Perhaps I THOUGHT it was dry, when it really wasn't, at least all the way through. You can click the link to read the whole thread on Dendroboard. Incidentally, that is the thread where I got the idea for using the titebond.

Grimm · #49 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 05:59 PM

Haha I think your internet is acting funky Froggy...I dont know if you can see it but you posted the same thing twice, and then again

Ill check out that thread tho.

Im off for a bit...But I'll post up some updated pics tonight...Who knows maybe if I can pick up the glue, some peat, and some sand, I can get started!

froggsong · #50 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 06:04 PM

I also recommend you check this link out. It's a PDF, so you'll have to download it. I haven't read the whole thing, but it's interesting. I'm not sure how useful it will be to your current build due to the size, but if you wanted to make some branches or something, it might be useful.

Making Artificial Trees and Vines