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Old 08-25-2010, 05:11 AM
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I used many builds I've viewed postings of or seen displays of, for inspiration into this build. I will say, the older Black Jungle builds influenced me heavily! I also want to Thank Black Jungle for great customer service, excellent products and plants, the new "Rewards" program kicks ace!

I have longed to incorporate features of many builders designs, into a Viv of my own. So hopefully here goes somthin!

This is My 2nd build ever, I'm so excited and have learned a lot through trial and error in my first build. I know there will still be issues, thankfully I have the community now to bounce ideas, and problems off of
So without further adieu...

My original intention was to use an Exo-Terra PT2607 - 18"x18"x24"(WxDxH). The problem was, I couldn't find a suitable one on Craigs. Not that I'm opposed to Zoo Med, "Naturalistic Terrariums", ha ha; but that I'm very familiar w/ Exo-T's,(I have owned 4 of them).

So anyway... back to the build.

I started with the Zoo Med NT-4, w/ a hood,(that I got a killer deal on), both were in great shape. That along with price-point, helped me get over my Exo-T addiction. I had read lots of pros for Zoo Med's, so I was happy to try one out for myself.

I drilled out one of the cord holes to fit my pump cord, behind the lid. I have seen posts on other forums where people let the little plastic shell dictate what they do in the Viv. Don't do that, drill it, cut in, saw it, I've even butane torched my way around those lids, they are pretty forgiving,(both Exo-T's and Zoo Med's), and stronger than they look or seem...



I then started by silicone spreading on the sides,(not too concerned with my walls view of the Viv, hence no silicone on the back).



Then I placed the underwater heater,($13 Hydor Mini Submersible Heater,from a lps). I have had great success with Hydor's for Viv's where I only have 1-3" of water and not much space, or depth for bulky tube style heaters.



Sorry for the book, I'm excited let me know if I'm too verbose...

Now on to the water features... Yes I said features, this small container is going to have a lot going on! I'm super into it! My original plan was to have a multifunctional drip wall/ waterfall feature built in. Run by one internal workhorse pump,(used for outdoor ponds), running a 3/8” tubing into the dripper manifold – Who would then send H2O to 8 other ¼” lines!



The best part,(pun intended), is that the dripper manifold has adjustable flow! So I can control each of the eight lines output depending on its desired function, plants nearby, etc. I might be a little over zealous about this thing, but it's functionality has been my saving grace many a times in this build thus far!

I wanted to conceal the pump,(which I purchased from a local garden center $13), from view obviously. So I set out for the perfect starting point to a cave for my little H2O loving friend.

Now I don't know about you guys but once I have it in my head about a specific Viv product, and I think its going to be perfect. I will end up trying to make it that way until I either destroy it, or make it work...



That being said... I finally found my cave of choice, Habascape Cave $8 off Amazon, (did not find a distributor who worked w/ lps's in CO). They look great, and are easy to drill/cut/grind. I'm tired. I'll post more later Thanks!
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I placed the Zoo Med on it's back... Ran pump cord and manifold behind driftwood, then ran the hoses behind all over the driftwood prior to GS.



Started the GS w/ eight, 7-10" pieces of Malaysian Driftwood, and a 3-pack of Monkey Pods, from Black Jungle.



Dripper manifold from the top



Bottom pump area
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After dry time and carving out caves and such. Started to silicone the coco
fiber.



Bottom view



Top View



Fiber finished - Sorry this pic sucks. It's the only one I had at this stage.



Close up of pump. I left cord extra long at bottom to size up later.
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Really looking good. Get the manifold idea from black jungle I see I wish I could have found something like that. Really a great feature with the adjustability of each output!

What are you planning to cover the background with? With this amount of water flowing over the background, I really encourage you to try the titebond method. Silicone/coco just doesnt last long enough under running water.

Edit: Im not a fast enough poster...Looks like you did the co-co method :P ...Hopefully it holds up better for you then it did for me.
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I then started cleaning up the edges of the silicone side walls and trimmed where needed. I love this little Stanley razor-blade holder,($1.25 at Walmart). Saved my fingers quite a few times, as I don't wear gloves as much as I should...



Then I started Moding the Lid. I'm removing the screen, and replacing it with a piece of Plexi-glass. The Plexi will have a ventilation area,(that's screened off), for the fresh air being pumped through a fan, and holes drilled for the Mist King system.

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Really looking good. Get the manifold idea from black jungle I see I wish I could have found something like that. Really a great feature with the adjustability of each output!

What are you planning to cover the background with? With this amount of water flowing over the background, I really encourage you to try the titebond method. Silicone/coco just doesnt last long enough under running water.

Edit: Im not a fast enough poster...Looks like you did the co-co method :P ...Hopefully it holds up better for you then it did for me.
Thanks Grimm! I have been running into problems with this method for three weeks now, I have lots of explaining to do I guess... I'm still working out a lot of the bugs. I have redone lots of it,(as its come off ). I knew it was going to have lots of trouble holding up, so as it's leaves, then I put it back up. I'm finding that most areas will hold, just not as thick and nice as usual.
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Nice work so far, I had the same manifold for my water feature in my first viv... it works awsome with a strong pump cause the first time i turned it on... it looked like a Vegas Hotel Fountain!

I was getting ready to do the same thing with the acrylic on the top but was planning not to remove the screen, just fitting the acrylic from the top .. any reason why you are?
I was figuring any vents or fans would then be protected without me needing to add screen again in those spots?
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Here is the Lid atop after hole drilled and slot cut out for ventilation.



Now here's a Fun part I took my Zoo Med Hood, and cut out a section to mount my fan into. Now I know I could just make a top to house everything, but I wanted to try something I had never seen...



Here it is atop the lid and running I just think its fun, and super easy to do!



More to come, I'm trying to get it up to where I'm at in the build now.
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Nice work so far, I had the same manifold for my water feature in my first viv... it works awsome with a strong pump cause the first time i turned it on... it looked like a Vegas Hotel Fountain!

I was getting ready to do the same thing with the acrylic on the top but was planning not to remove the screen, just fitting the acrylic from the top .. any reason why you are?
I was figuring any vents or fans would then be protected without me needing to add screen again in those spots?
Thanks, Yeah I'm super into the water features... I agree, I should have kept some of it. I threw it away for some reason in a late night session... Of course the next day was "trash day" and when I went to go dig it out I found out it was lost... So I ended up buying a used screen lid,(more durable one with metal frame for standard aquariums to terrariums), for $4 at lps. I cut out the section I needed and put the rest in my materials section of my garage. The reason I did not keep the old one attached is that I like the look of a clean top. I wanted it to look as if I bought it that way. I also liked using the roughly 1/16" area the screen was housed in for extra grip to bond the Plexi into. I might try your method next time, just to see the difference.
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I then proceeded with a wet run of the pump. Monitoring the coco background, and replacing the coco filled water many times over the next few weeks - in areas where the water flow would soon take me back a few steps... 1 step forward, 2 steps back. At the same time it was fun to play around with the manifolds flow adjustment to each hose, and was also great for placement of plants to come. You can see all the husk in the water, even after a thorough vacuum session on the background.



I was getting exited to see more, so I prematurely put the 24" Monkey Ladder's,(also from Black Jungle), into the setup...



I started to find out after the rock and bio-filtration media was pushed aside, my Habascape cave,(even though at this point was full of holes on most sides and plenty on top), was still buoyant That along with my choice of coco background started me on a "working out the bugs phase", that I'm still in...

I was able to find another cave that was actually easier to cut/drill/grind than the Habascape, and more importantly was not buoyant. Exo-Terra XL cave,(that I used about half of), and was able to grind away the rear of the cave to meet with my background for a tighter fit and less conspicuous for sure. I also preferred the warmer tones from that specific cave to the lack of choice,(at least from the seller on amazon), with the Habascape. Being that I received a gray/black one...



Quick note, I love this stuff! It's on the Pricey side,($28 at my local garden supply store), but I've used it a lot in pond style uses and in my last Viv. Has anyone else used it in Viv's for 1year +?
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