An idea on how to make a "cheap" misting system...

[FwoGiZ]

I might try something but would like if any of you ever tried it before!
I noticed misting systems are pretty expensive... But what if I get a cheap 100ish GPH pump, and plug some tubings along with a plastic nozzle like this one

I know this wouldn't make a nice misting like the bigger systems, but it would still be good enough.
What do you think?

[froggsong]

I think a better option would be to go with something like this: ACE DIY Misting Systems. Mind, this was just the first link I came across for what I wanted. These systems and their parts can be found at Ace Hardware stores. The Mist and Cool systems are VERY inexpensive. The mist is also VERY fine. You can plumb these straight from the tap if you have it available, which will allow you to use your water pressure to power the mist.

[Epiphile]

Originally Posted by froggsong

You can plumb these straight from the tap if you have it available, which will allow you to use your water pressure to power the mist.

This is the trouble with trying to do this in a more closed system, I think. An 100GPH pump is probably not even enough to squeeze a drop from those nozzles (I've tried with a stronger submersible pump). I don't know if there's a conversion or relationship somehow between GPH and PSI, but you need a minimum of the latter to run any misting nozzle. With a submersible pump you'll also lose pressure through head height, etc. as well.

Misting systems are expensive because they have to be- there's no way around it or some enterprising hobbyist would already have thought of it. I think that what you get for your money is well worth it, personally. Try shopping around for the individual components to any popular vivarium misting system- you won't find a better price, I don't think.

[beckdg]

Originally Posted by FwoGiZ

100ish GPH pump... I know this wouldn't make a nice misting like the bigger systems, but it would still be good enough.
What do you think?

won't work... centrifugal force and or hydraulic pressure will be much lacking

Originally Posted by froggsong

I think a better option would be to go with something like this: ACE DIY Misting Systems.

i think that is a great money saving alternative IF your water is acceptable right from the tap. for example it would probably be a bad idea in most cities because of the widespread use of chloramine in most water treatment plants. on a well you'd want your water tested in many cases and then filtered accordingly which the initial purchase would outweigh the price of the mister alone. i'd also want to know that in the case of a leak/split line my floor drain would be adequate for the overflow.

Originally Posted by Epiphile

I don't know if there's a conversion or relationship somehow between GPH and PSI, but you need a minimum of the latter to run any misting nozzle.

yes there is but you'd have to also know at the very minimum nozzle diameter/back pressure, hose head and hose diameter and length to come up with something even close to realistic.

Originally Posted by Epiphile

Misting systems are expensive because they have to be- there's no way around it or some enterprising hobbyist would already have thought of it. I think that what you get for your money is well worth it, personally. Try shopping around for the individual components to any popular vivarium misting system- you won't find a better price, I don't think.

you don't have to narrow your search to viv misting systems. there's greenhouse, vegetable, cooling, garden, etc., etc..

they don't have to be expensive either... you just have to be prepared to deal with the flaws of cheaper systems. the flaws admittedly can be catastrophic in terms/times of failure though.

there's some options in this thread if you'd like... https://www.vivariumforum.com/communi...-question.html

definitely check out the chameleon misting system.

[beckdg]

i use this on my little tank right now... Rl Flomaster 1/2 Gallon Hand Held Sprayer RLF1998TL 1998TL Wholesale

i'm not recommending that store at all... i know nothing of them. i picked mine up at lowes or home depot for ~$7. don't remember which one since i shopped both relentlessly looking for wooden swing set parts that day.

[Epiphile]

Originally Posted by beckdg

you don't have to narrow your search to viv misting systems. there's greenhouse, vegetable, cooling, garden, etc., etc..

they don't have to be expensive either... you just have to be prepared to deal with the flaws of cheaper systems. the flaws admittedly can be catastrophic in terms/times of failure though.

there's some options in this thread if you'd like... https://www.vivariumforum.com/communi...-question.html

definitely check out the chameleon misting system.

I just meant that vivarium misting systems are already tailored to a hobbyist's needs and wouldn't need any adapting to the application. Even the cheaper systems will cost a chunk of money- my thinking is why not put a little more money in to get something that's going to perform well and reliably?

I just think it's something that's not worth cutting corners on, personally, having already tried to do so in the past.

[beckdg]

i do not disagree. however, different strokes for different folks.

for example... mixing dart frogs (not just any frogs). there are some great arguments against it by some very knowledgeable, educated, informed, experienced folks. i have to agree with them. but if someone wants to individually pay for, treat, test, swab, do fecals, etc. and then have all that money wasted when they all die or one eats another... or even worse they mate and you are now overrun with worthless tads you may have to euth... it's their bad decision to make.

then again with testing, swabbing, experience, quarantining, careful consideration, etc., NOBODY is going to tell me i can't put MY animals together if i choose to do so.

not yelling... just expressing points nobody takes into consideration often.

not exactly the same thing though as i'm sure someone can and i know someone has constructed something cheaper that will and does work.

i just think folks should consider the down side first and decide if they can live with it. for example if the system is in a basement/laundry room with a floor drain and their enclosure will allow water to leak out (say in an exo terra) before it fills up or covers all available land and they want to plumb it into the house it's their decision.

now just adding a pump from a garden sprayer will have other issues. eventually the pump will stop holding it's pressure or blow out and not pump any pressure. one would obviously have to replace them periodically. although the idea seemed sound this will bring the cost over the long run up to more than what a misting system can be purchased for.

so there's an up and a down no matter how it's done...

[froggsong]

The mist and cool system can also be run with a pump. They have individual misting parts at Ace as well, including filters, pumps and whatnot.

I also posted a link ages ago about a misting system to water moss gardens. The mist is fine enough that it looks like fog.

There really are lots of options, and I don't think that plumbing it into the house would be too terrible as long as you made provisions for timer failure and whatnot. Maybe a second timer or something that kicks on in case of failure.

Anyway, I have to run... I'm doing a major fish tank change and don't want to flood the living room!!! Oh, and beck, expect a PM from me soon.

[newsalt]

You need a pump that will build pressure not just move water. The pressure rated pumps like Iwaki and some Lil giants and a lot more are pressure rated but just as, if not more, expensive the pumps that come with a misting system.
So no savings but would solve the DIY urge.

[jpstod]

Originally Posted by beckdg

or even worse they mate and you are now overrun with worthless tads you may have to euth... it's their bad decision to make.

I know Thread jacking but I gotta comment on this a little

If your not a breeder and never release them why would they be worthless ? ? ?

Any animals born in my cages stay there ! !
So to me they would be worth as much as their parents.

As a Side Note I don't agree with designer breeders either. To me a $5.00 Frog or Toad is a Valuable as a $2000 frog