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Old 02-03-2008, 11:06 AM
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I just bought an undergravel filter for a paludarium for my water dragon. I didn't realize that it didn't come with a pump/powerhead. I've never owned a UG filter before and I dont even know what a powerhead is. Well, I know the gist of it.
Usually my reptiles live in simple terrariums and the only technical stuff i know about is lighting. So i am relatively inexperienced with this other fancy shmancy stuff. Can someone briefly explain how to set up a powerhead to an undergravel filter?

sorry if there has already been threads covering this topic. i could not find any.

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Old 02-04-2008, 12:00 AM
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If you want to put a power head on an UGF then you'd set the intake on the riser tubes of the UGF.

The UGF base plate can be thought of as a kind of false bottom for the aquarium substrate. So it draws water down through the gravel (which is placed on top of the UGF plate), along underneath the base plate and then up the riser tubes and back out into the aquarium. Typically UGF's use airstones pushed down in the riser tubes. The air extruded from the airstones goes up the risers and draws water up along with it - and back out into the aquarium. The result is that the waste material in the aquarium becomes trapped in the gravel above the UGF plate. The idea behind it is that the beneficial bacteria in the gravel bed decompose the waste matter and neutralize it.

The powerheads just add more push and increase the flow. Instead of airstones using air bubbles to draw water up and out the risers, now it's the powerheads that suck the water up and out through them. Basically the same biological filtering principle is still in effect.

So you said you didn't know what a powerhead was... it's basically an electrical, submersible pump. The intake is on the bottom of the unit and it draws the water up into a chamber then an impeller forces the water out at 90* from the intake (so out the side of it). When it's placed on the the top of the UGF's open riser tube, the outlet port will jet expel the pumped water out along the surface of the aquarium.

How deep is your the water in you tank? If it's not that deep you might have to cut the risers so that the top of the powerhead is under the surface of the water........

I'm not really sure how an UGF would work in the setup you're describing because usually the base plate is the same size as the tank and will cover the entire aquarium bottom...... There's no land portion in your tank?

Another thing is that UGF's need time for cultures of beneficial bacteria to grow to the point where they can "consume" waste. The first nitrate / nitrite cycle is usually 8 - 10 weeks.... Also if your water dragon's feces are big, that UGF may not be able to handle that kind of waste even with a full complement of beneficial bacteria. It's not a very efficient filter. It was designed for fish waste not reptile waste.

You don't give details on how you intend to set it up but it doesn't sound like this would be a filter you'd want to use with a water dragon.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:28 AM
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The bottom of the palu is 3/4 gravel and even under the land portion there is gravel and the plate. The uptake tubes have been cut; there is one on each side of the tank. The water level is about 10 centimetres. It is a relatively large tank, I think 80 gal ( I dont know gallons too well.) it is meant to contain fish as well as my dragon. It is not really meant to filter feces.

I'm not sure what my motivation was. I was hoping to maybe just give my dragon some swimming area without having to clean it every day. if anyone has a better suggestion, please share. Thank you Green Ghost for the advice. It was quite helpful.
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I hope you did some research on the dragon's adult size before you purchased.

I would like a Couple but I don't have a place for them. This is about the standard recommended size for an adult.

They Will need a space about
Width: 96" (243.84cm)
Height: 60" (152.4cm)
Depth: 48" (121.92cm)
Tank's volume is approximately 276480 cubic inches or 1196.88 U.S. gallons, which is approximately 4655.88 liters.

An adult needs plenty of water to soak in. They almost require an outdoor cage. Then you could do a Pond for them complete with plenty of natural filtration and plants.
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The bottom of the palu is 3/4 gravel and even under the land portion there is gravel and the plate. The uptake tubes have been cut; there is one on each side of the tank. The water level is about 10 centimetres. It is a relatively large tank, I think 80 gal ( I dont know gallons too well.) it is meant to contain fish as well as my dragon. It is not really meant to filter feces.

I'm not sure what my motivation was. I was hoping to maybe just give my dragon some swimming area without having to clean it every day. if anyone has a better suggestion, please share. Thank you Green Ghost for the advice. It was quite helpful.

I'd go with a proportional size canister filter? Also if you're not sure about the volume of your tank in gallons just measure the dimensions (LxWxH) and everyone will know what you mean. I'm just guessing here,... your tank is probably 48" long? The riser tubes on the UGF have to be cut so that they don't protrude past the surface of the water, right?

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Aquarium System Volume Calculator ...best one i have found for odd shapes
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not that you mentioned odd shapes lol, just good for checkin on your total system volume
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