Growing Kyoto Moss from Spores?! - Page 3

froggsong · #21 03-08-2010, 10:04 PM

Hmmm, I don't know... I wouldn't think that the spores would grow at all if they were ground into dust. If course, I could be wrong...

FwoGiZ · #22 03-09-2010, 03:03 AM

the avg size of a spore is 30µm so it is completely normal it looks like dust, it wasn't "grounded"
I fear that if I toss my current "spored" soil mix into my sphagnum moss, that either the sphag or kyoto will be taken over by the other one... or is "peat moss" good enough?
I started using RO water too... eagerly waiting for the first sprouts

froggsong · #23 03-09-2010, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FwoGiZ

the avg size of a spore is 30µm so it is completely normal it looks like dust, it wasn't "grounded"
I fear that if I toss my current "spored" soil mix into my sphagnum moss, that either the sphag or kyoto will be taken over by the other one... or is "peat moss" good enough?
I started using RO water too... eagerly waiting for the first sprouts

Even the descriptions online for the kyoto moss says that it is ground up. It looks to me like they gather the sporophytes and grind them into powder. I don't know if that affects the way it grows or not, but since people have been growing moss from this stuff for years and years, I guess it works fine.

My experience with spores is actually gathering the sporophytes, that is why I suggested exposing them to a more acidic environment. If they have already been release (or in this case removed) from the capsule, then it shouldn't be necessary.

Peat moss is just milled sphagnum. It should be fine to use. I know that your picture of your growing medium might not work as well as straight peat, because you have larger chunks in there and the moss will have difficulty spreading across it. Since you're growing from spores, though, it might be ok.

WannabeVivMaster · #24 03-15-2010, 02:35 AM

Froggsong...
I owe an apology... after reading my post and your response, you are correct. This hobby is based on a culmination of experiments and results. This is a forum of learning from individual experiences. I was mistaken by so boldly expressing my opinion that Java Moss should be the only moss used in a vivarium. It wasn't my intentions to say Java Moss is the only moss to be used (dispite my previous message).
I continue to have very satisfactory results from the Java Moss in my Vivarium. I'm new to this hobby. I"m alow relatively new to this forum.
I'll take this one "on the chin".

froggsong · #25 03-15-2010, 03:33 PM

No worries.

D3monic · #26 03-15-2010, 03:44 PM

My kyoto moss never took off in any of the ways I tried to grow it. I did score some nice looking moss growing on some rocks and stumps. Very lush green. I dont mind if its temperate. If it goes dormant Ill peel it up and get some more next spring. I wouldnt mind doing something seasonal, Moss in teh summer and then covering it with leaf litter when it goes dormant.

FwoGiZ · #27 03-21-2010, 11:50 PM

haven't had any luck as of now

I will keep trying... i ll get back to you guys later with this

Pareeeee · #28 04-06-2010, 10:40 AM

Hey I'm trying to grow some Kyoto Moss as well and have had no luck. I am trying to grow it in potting soil. I may try growing it on some fabric. (a natural one like cotton or something)

I was thinking - to make it more acidic - what about watering it with TEA? I dunno, vinegar just sounds harsh to me.

Grimm · #29 04-06-2010, 10:52 AM

Diluted vinegar, Id say about 10-20% vinegar and 80-90% water.

I'm going to try sticking a few spores onto the surface of my Titebond background. I'll make sure they are in a constantly moist spot aswell. The peat and co-co fiber mixture should give a slightly acidic substrate so hopefully it helps with growth.

I wonder if anyone has actually had any luck with these spore packages? The instructions make it seem fool proof but I have yet to hear any success stories lol.

raymondsmindjob · #30 08-20-2011, 05:11 AM

So did anyone EVER have any luck with this?
When I origionally set up my vivarium I just picked some moss from a local woodland area, but it starting dying out in my vivarium, so I took it outta there. Then I came across these Kyoto Moss spores and bought some, sprinkled them on my substrate (ecoearth, spagnum mix to which I added some flourite planted tank substrate and fish tank bacteria starter)
Ihave been misting these spores daily, and my substrate stays wet, but they still look like gray dust?
Let me know if anyone has had success with this, if not I will probably just buy some moss from somewhere.

Oh yea, I also bought a little java moss and it has survived for 3 months now, but has not spread at all, I have some on my water feature in a little clump and some tied to a submerged rock with some fishing line.
What should I do to help this kind of moss grow?