mixing tree frogs...

[aquapants]

We are setting up our 55gal viv with tree frogs in mind.
Wondering if we could keep leucomelas darts, golden tree frogs, and tiger legs together (or any combo of the three) without issue.
Any info would be helpful, especially on the goldens as there is not a whole lot out there.
Cheers!

[knighty]

not too sure on what would and would noy go together but all what you have listed would equire differnt eco set ups....

mixing frogs all together should be avoided, there excraments can be toxic to other species.....

best to pic your fav and go with them....

[Green Ghost]

I wouldn't mix dart frogs with the tree frogs you suggested there.

[Selllena]

Absolutely agree with Green Ghost! It's better never mix dart frogs with other frogs.
About other mixtures - the rule is- animals must be approximately the same size, they must be chousen by the same conditions, like temperature, humidity, it must be enough space and hyding places for each of them....

As for me, I decided to try to keep together Litoria Caerulea ,Rhacophorus leucomystax end Leptopelis(I think that flamoculatus). They all need almost the same conditions, eat the same food, and do not differ very much in their size. I already keep them together half a year though some people talked me out of that. They support very well. One thing - I took a couple of each species, but it appears that I have 2 males of Racoforus and 2 females of Leptopelis ....So, Racoforus are often on the backs of Leptopelis ...I'm going to order 1 frog + to each group to avoid that. And, I'm going to make bigger terrarium also.

[aquapants]

From what I have read, they all have very similar habitat requirements, and in a long 55gal tank planted viv, they should have plenty of space to keep away from each other.
Any specific reasons they would not work together? Is it just a personality thing? Worry about the darts being smaller? Or is it confirmed that they would poison each other? Is it just the darts that wouldnt work, or could we keep the goldens and tiger legs together?
Any info would really be appreciated.

[knighty]

if the frogs require the same things it is possible, i choose to keep seperate becuse you can then give each species its own requirments without hamppering the others needs.

this info is based on theese being the 2 frogs you mean... if i have got wrong im sorry, normally go by scientific/latin names...



the main problem is the tiger legs only get 1.5 - 2 inch and the goldens 2 - 4 inch, which is enough to suggest it wont work as the tiger legs would be out muscled in the hunt for food. the other problem is goldens are bulky jumpy frogs and tiger legs are slender moving frogs. also the golden comes from asia and the tiger leg is south american. the temps are around the same 27 being good for both though.

if you want to keep tree frogs height is much more important than length. for a pair of tiger legs you would need a 20 gallon minimum tank as they are very active, so for 2 species with a pair of each your talking at least a 40 gallon being the smallest possible IMO, so as they have enough room and can avoid each other...

exo terra do a 18" x 18" x 24" (WxDxH) which is around 36 gallons

as for the darts they are best kept alone, have very different needs. darts are not poisonus in captivity, but please dont add them.
if you want different looking frogs together the best to go for are read frogs as there are many different morphs and would be fine together.

[aquapants]

Yes, those are the two that we are looking at.

The dimensions of our viv are aprox. 12 (deep) X 22 (high) X 48 (long)". It is going to be heavily planted with lots of spaces to hide.

[knighty]

viv is a nice size, but theses 2 will not work, i have found a care sheet that says tigers should be kept alone..... not only that but the size difference is too much, the goldens will be double the size of the tiger legs, and this means not only could they be easily bullied but the food for the goldens will be much bigger then the food for the tigers.... if all does not get eaten the last thing your tiger needs is a 10mm cricket walking over it......

if you are realy set on theses 2 frogs put a glass patition in the tank. otherwise this will not only result in dissapointment, but it will be unfair on the frogs.

[Ajax]

Rules of Herp101 including for amphibians:

DONT MIX SPECIES

[Green Ghost]

Originally Posted by knighty

if you want different looking frogs together the best to go for are read frogs as there are many different morphs and would be fine together.

"the best to go for are read frogs..." should be read "reed" as in reed frog hehehe