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Old 01-28-2009, 12:57 PM
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So now it's day four or five.

Over the evening the moss acquired a horrible stink. Not sure if it was too much water or just too much moss but the substrate is now a ratio of about 70% stones and pebbles, 30% moss.

I also invested in a humidity gage and a carton of adult crickets because the small batch I had was either eaten, drown, or crushed in all the substrate changes. While at the pet store I noticed how much more heftier all the other WTFs were. Mine has comparatively spindly legs and his pelvis is very pronounced at times. Is he malnourished? I added a few of the adult crickets to the newly arranged tank and he lunged for one and in the process bumped his snout against the glass and took off some of his skin! Its not flowing blood but its definitely noticeable. Is there any kind of treatment to help him recover the skin or a way to safe guard the edges so he wont skin him self further?

I also set up the crickets in their own smaller plastic bug house and they are eating dried fish flakes until I can get them something adequate to start gut feeding them.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:25 PM
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Sheesh, you're having a rough beginning with this guy! I don't know anything about treating WTF wounds, so I hope someone else weighs in soon! I will say that when I've seen frogs with very obvious pelvic structures they were undernourished, but yours is willing to eat, so perhaps that won't last long.
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You may want to look on the Internet for a treatment because I have heard of a prescription ointment for such wounds. I had the same problem with my golden tree frog. I hand feed my wtf though.
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I attempted hand feeding, the cricket became immobile and unappetizing I guess and I wasn't even sure if my WTF was hungry. He may have eaten when I wasn't around. It's hard to tell if crickets have been eaten or are just hiding in the Viv.
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Old 01-29-2009, 05:31 PM
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You can use triple antibiotic ointment without pain reliever on his nose. It should start to heal very quickly. When my golden gets wounds, they heal pretty much overnight with the antibiotic ointment (just be very very sure it has no pain killer in it).

Your substrate may have started stinking because of dead crickets. Try to feed the frog the crickets one at a time, and stop when he doesn't eat one (then pull that one out). He may not want to hand feed for a while, but you can just drop them one at a time in front of the frog, that usually works really well. Hope that helps.

PS, I really like the water dish you made. It looks like some kind of really cool mushroom.
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Believe it or not my inspiration for the dish was a Muller's Termite Frog, ( http://www.amphibiainfo.com/gallery/...ri_ebinuma.jpg )About 3 years ago before I ever had any interest in owning a frog... Twist of fate!

Where can I get some of this elusive ointment? And I doubt its a smell from dead crickets. I've seen them burrow into the substrate mixture to just do their thing so it's hard to keep track of if they are alive or dead, eaten/ not eaten.
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Brace yourselves for the blood and gore...
This is the condition of his snout.


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You can buy triple antibiotic ointment at a pharmacy, at Wal-Mart, at Target, etc. If you're unsure about whether it has pain reliever in it, ask the pharmacist.
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Ok, so this is the third week I am thinking. I'm still learning what works for the frog and what works for me when it comes to care, conditions and visual appeal of the viv. Because I've seen him at times squatting in his dish I took out the hand made one and opted for a nice and spacious store bough one, also I invested in a fake flexible vine which I never saw him touch once. I got a fake plant (took out live one) which worked well, pretty common to see him amongst the leaves sleeping. Decided to get a second very similar plant to occupy the other half of the tank. Still lots of ground room for him to move around and now plenty of canopy for him to hide in or climb around on, space kind of limited though for any more alterations.

I bought a 100 watt, very mobile, metal desk lamp to support a new 75 watt reptile heat lamp. Before I had a 60 watt lamp and a 50 watt bulb. The tank at long last stays at about 80 during the day and mid 70's at night. I think his face injury was actually a burn caused in the first day when I had one of the under tank heaters on the side of the glass. I had read that because WTFs aren't typically ground dwelling it was pointless to put the heating pads on the bottom but if my theory is true, it's too dangerous a risk on the side. And on the bottom seems to work just fine because heat rises up off the ground anyway.

I've been apply the triple antibiotic ointment once or twice daily to his face and it shows slow but notable signs of healing. The injury is in a really unideal spot on the tip of his snout because, due to the texture of his skin I can't rub it on I need to add a small blob/dab, but it lasts only a few minutes before he wipes it away with his hand or rubs it off against a stone or something. Also the crickets has their own set up while they await their fate. Now for the pictures!




This picture bellow shows the questionable mold I asked about on another forum thread. I tried to wash some off but its still there.

My WTF Dante, who I suspect might actually be a girl do to no swollen thumbs. I know they can grow to be hefty for their sizes but is he too thin at all?


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I'm glad his snout is healing. It's a shame he wipes it off so quickly. I guess I get lucky, mine doesn't wipe it off (which is why it heals so quickly). I like the way you have the tank set up now. I can tell you're going to be a great keeper for your frog. You're so willing to learn and change things. Great Job!
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