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Old 12-31-2007, 03:49 PM
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No you dont want mix. Also mossy will get much bigger than firebelly toads. will eat the fire belly toads. marlon
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Old 12-31-2007, 11:01 PM
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i have a really nice set up atm it has a little stream that goes into a pond, live plants. im using a 20L gal tank so its a good size tank. if i can find the cord that hooks up to my camera i would be more than happy to show u all my tank =D.
the setup is called a false bottom tank. its really neat, once i find that cord i will show u all o and thx atlfrog for the site. o and thx marlon if i get a mossy frog i will put my firebellys in a different tank.

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Mossy frogs are tree frogs. If you get a Mossy I would suggest a 20 tall. They also need lots of water so 2/3 water to 1/3 land is good. cPanel® is a good place to get them, well priced and Patrick has a really good care sheet on this site as well.
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I purchased four baby Vietnamese Mossy Frogs from Saurian Enterprises about one year ago. The frogs were healthy, great eaters and grew fast. They remain amazingly tame with little handling and they have tuff skin unlike the delicate skin of other tree frogs. I currently have two males and two females and can’t wait to see if they will breed. Twice a week I remove my frogs from their tank to a feeding tank which empty except for damp paper towels that I like to add to keep the frogs moist. While they eat you have the opportunity to examine each frog and insure they are eating properly also a real bonus is that you will not have dead crickets or their waste in your terrarium which keeps it much cleaner.
My tank is 36” wide, 18” deep and 18” high. Full spectrum florescent lighting is used during the day and for night we just added blue led lighting. I have filled the tank with 3 to 4 inches of water. We added a good filter which takes the water out from the left side and put it back in the form of a waterfall on the right side. This gives the tank a mild current just like the streams and caves these frogs come from. I added a fogger for humidity and it works very well. A submersible water heater has been added which nicely controls the temperature of the tank which I like to keep about 76 degrees. Full spectrum florescent lighting is used during the day and for night we just added blue led lighting. The fog from the fogger is amazing in the blue lighting.
I put live plants in containers that do not have holes so that the dirt and plant food do not contaminate the water and the plants won’t get waterlogged. It also makes it easy to change out plants as needed. Put a layer of gravel on the bottom and top of the plant soil. The bottom layer will keep the plant from floating around and the top layer keeps the frogs from getting dirt everywhere. Natural gravel and stones cover the bottom of the tank. Fake plants and areas to hide inside and outside the water were also added.
Lastly I did add fish to my setup. Saurian Enterprises advises against this and I tend to agree with them. If you get sick fish you could lose your frogs. Mossy frogs can live with Red eyed tree frogs (mine did just fine) but remember that you are mixing frogs from different countries and one type of frog could naturally carry a bacteria that could make the other frog sick or die.

I posted three pictures of my frogs and their setup in the members general gallery. This is my first day on the forum and I will hopefully get better at using it.

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Captive bred vietnamese mossy frogs at about $35. Frogs shipped together for $30. I purchased 4 about one year ago and their wonderful easy to manage frogs.

Poison Dart Frogs Poison Arrow Frogs Dart Frogs & Poison Arrow Dart Frogs Terrarium Animals from Saurian Enterprises, Inc.
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Does anyone know if the mossy frogs would eat some mollys? i think these frogs would be awesome in my 40 gal corner tank. it has a water feature and land.
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I still want some... They are soooooo cool looking.
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The Mossy Frog has only recently become available in the pet trade. The care and breeding of this interesting frog is becoming more refined as our experience with them increases. Most breeders, in the USA have been working with this species for less than 3 years so we still have a lot to learn.

The Mossy Frog, Theloderma corticale, lives in karst zones of northern Vietnam. They make their home in flooded caves and deep niches in the banks of mountain streams. Their range includes the provinces of Vinh Phu, Back Tahi, Cao Bang, and Lang Son. They can be found from 700-1500 m elevation. Their range is decreasing due to habitat destruction and some biologists consider their status as threatened or endangered.

The color and texture of their skin looks like a bunch of moss. Their skin is colored in various shades of green with black and purple spots and stains. They are covered with numerous tubercles and spines thus providing them with a perfect camouflage.

They are mostly nocturnal, however, I have heard them calling during the day. Males have quite a repertoire of calls. Males can be identified by pronounced breeding calluses on the base of their inside finger. There doesn't seem to be much difference in size between males and females. Adults are 7 to 8 cm (3-inches), that can be attended within 6 to 9 months of metamorphism. These frogs will fold into a ball when frightened and play dead.

They actively feed, at night on large insects such as crickets and cockroaches. This is a semi-aquatic species spending much of the time hiding in the water under rocks and floating plants. They will also attach themselves to the crevice on a rock, just above the water appearing to be moss. Their eggs are deposited above the water to protect them from aquatic predators. The eggs hatch in 7 to 14 days with the newly hatched tadpoles dropping from their egg into the water directly below them. Metamorphous from tadpole to frog takes about 3 months.

I recommend that Mossy Frogs be maintained in a covered aquarium (these are tree frogs that have adhesive toe pads and can jump). A ten to twenty gallon aquarium can house two or three frogs. The aquarium should be 1/3 to 1/2 full of water with an aquarium filter. De-chlorinated water that has been conditioned by adding Indian Almond (Terminala cattapa) leaves or a similar commercial aquarium additive should be used. The aquarium can be decorated with broken pieces of clay pots protruding above the water, rocks, and other aquarium decorations. Overhanging rocks or pots are necessary if you intend to breed your frogs. I also use floating water plants like water lettuce. The feeder insects can climb on the water plants until the frogs find and eat them. I feed my frogs, at night, four or five times a week.

Mossy Frogs have been successfully maintained at daytime temperatures of 26- 30 degrees C (79- 86 degrees F) and 22 - 24 degrees C (72 - 75 degrees F) at night. I maintain mine at a constant 78 degrees F both night and day. It is know that local temperatures drop to 4 - 5 degrees C (39 - 41 degrees F) during the winter in their range. A cooling period may or may not be necessary to stimulate breeding and amplexus. I initially cooled my frogs a few degrees in late summer/early fall and breeding commenced shortly thereafter. Clutch size varies from 10 to 40 eggs. Eggs that are deposited in the water fail to develop. Tadpoles can be raised together (they are not cannibalistic) in an aerated aquarium in conditioned water. The tadpoles should be fed daily on Spirulina flakes.

With routine care you will be able to enjoy these unique frogs. They are not difficult to keep and can provide a lot of enjoyment for their owner. Through captive breeding the wild populations no longer need to be harmed by collectors for the pet trade. Have Fun!


this is not my personnal experience with them
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