OMG HELP Ted!!!

Grimm · #1 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 11:14 AM

I have no clue what happened to him...Looked fine and at a healthy weight. He has been eating 3-4 crickets per night. Active. I woke up this morning and this is what he looks like. Very thin (almost deflated) and it looks like his inside are pushing out of his body. The little guy is still alive luckily. What has happened and what can I do to fix the problem??? Im worried like a parent

This is him now...

This pic was taken about 2-3 night ago..Looking good

Calebrez · #2 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 12:20 PM

Hi Grimm man i am sorry i hope ted is going to be ok!
That looks like it could be a prolapse either rectal, intestinal or colon.
It will eventually kill him if it is not fixed. It will get dried out or damaged with it hanging out in that manner.Is he getting calcium regularly? If not, he is most likely calcium deficient. He needs to have calcium with D3 dustings several times per week. Also, the feeders he gets should be fed & gutloaded prior to being fed to him.This happened probably due to him having to strain too hard when going to the bathroom. The GI tract operates off of calcium ions & when calcium levels fall too low, the smooth muscles cannot functino properly. What are the temps in the tank for him? It needs to be around 70-75 & no higher than 85. What is the humidity in the tank? It should run around 30-50% on average.
You may want to move to a sterile container with nothing it can catch it on and no crickets whatsoever.
Try bathing him in a dilute sugar solution, get some tupperware add about a centimeter worth of water and then a teaspoonful of sugar. This will at least keep it moist and if it is a prolapse this could help it reabsorb by itself. Do this for an hour or two at most and check him every 5-10 mins.

beckdg · #3 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 12:31 PM

that's called a rectal prolapse. it's baaaaaad jujus and he could easily die from it. what are you feeding him? what are his temps? what's his humidity normally? is he getting dusted correctly? calcium works hand in hand with the intestines from what i know and not having it or not processing it correctly could have helped to cause that. the problem is most likely him pushing too hard to poop. soft feeders low in chitin and dusted/gutloaded correctly are going to be important. you are most likely going to need a vet. that HAS to go back inside somehow and that's a pretty bad one that may need surgical correction.

maybe it's just me but he looks kinda thin too. if he's not fed well enough he'll dry up inside and it'll be harder to poop since there's nothing to make him go... no pressure built up so to say.

do you need help finding a decent herp vet locally?

beckdg · #4 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 12:33 PM

good call calebrez... thanks. i was not sure of the sugar water myself, so i didn't mention it.

Calebrez · #5 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 12:46 PM

I have 2 red eyes myself and my buddy had this happen to his and the sugar water cleared it right up pretty much over night

so hopefully Ted will be ok!

beckdg · #6 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Calebrez

I have 2 red eyes myself and my buddy had this happen to his and the sugar water cleared it right up pretty much over night

so hopefully Ted will be ok!

i hear that... i'll keep my fingers crossed for ole teddy boy there grimm. hopefully he pulls out of this okay.

Grimm · #7 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 08:35 PM

Ive been away from home all day (not my choice)

Thank you for your suggestions.
He has been fed 3 week crickets, dusted with calcium 4-5 times a week. The crickets get the dry cricket food from the cricket tub, aswell as some vitamin enriched dry food.

It has gotten even more prolapsed since this morning....This really sucks bad

Ill be trying the diluted sugar solution rite away. Hopefully he gets better

Grimm · #8 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 08:41 PM

And I forgot to mention...The humidity never drops below 60, usually closer to 80. And the temps are around 23-25C dering the day, and Im sure it drops a few degress at night but nothing colder then 20C

Grimm · #9 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 08:58 PM

K I didnt want to disturb him so I cut off the leave he was attached to. I placed him into a tupperware and added the diluted sugar water until 1/2 of the prolapse came into contact with it. As soon as the water touched him he woke up. I partially covered the saran wrap (punched with air holes) with some paper so he doesnt try to jump out.

What can I try feeding him instead if the prolaps does heal itself? Will those common worms at pet stores be an ok (moist) substitute or are they to waxy and hard to digest?

Calebrez · #10 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 09:22 PM

Well he may not eat the worms. I know that my red eyes wont eat them. You could try some of the multi vitamins that your local pet store should have like Herptivite or somthing like that. Does the sugar water solution seem to be helping? As far as feeding after it gets better. Crickets will still be fine, In some cases the prolapse healed and never happened again. Even after he gets better you may want to keep him quarantine for a few days in a very clean environment just to be safe