new whites

[rubiks]

Just purchased 2 whites tree frogs, They are about the size of quarters, Eating very well, at this size how old are they, And on the subject of dusting crickets, Have the rep-cal calcium and the rep-cal herptivite. what is a good dusting for a week. Have read alot of different schedules. thanks

[boabab95]

i dont understand the question... sorry, really tired

[spanky]

My guess would be 3-5 months. Pic could help. Providing the proper supplements is especially important with froglets, if you plan on dusting your crickets I would recommend doing so 3-4 times a week. Another option would be providing all the necassary nutrients for whatever your feeding them then you won't need to dust them as often it can also be benificial because the supplements won't get rubbed off on the plant foliage etc. before the frogs get a chance at them. I've also noticed that smaller (2 week) and younger crickets don't handle dustings as well as the adults.

[beckdg]

from most of my searches i've come to find that dusting is a relative thing. relative to their overall care. those who use uv lights use less or no d3, maybe monthly, but still dust for calcium. those who don't might use d3/calcium dusting once weekly and regular calcium dusting almost daily or every other day while others will only use calcium with d3 3-4X's weekly. for your vitamins it's basically the same deal. some people will raise their feeders on healthier foods and may not dose vitamins at all... or very seldom. others might just provide a "cricket or roach food" just to raise the feeders on and may gutload them prior to feeding (at least for around 24 hours) with healthy foods containing lots of vitamins and very little ingredients like oxalic acid that block the uptake of certain nutrients. all in all vitamin dusting should not be nearly a daily occurrence... more to the tune of weekly to monthly depending on your gutloading routine, recipe, understanding, etc.. the best thing you can do imo is find someone who's very successful with your particular species and who's feeding routine is similar to yours and try to mimic their routine.

in other words you don't want to provide a uvb bulb and follow the routine of someone who doesn't. this would lead you to add d3 and calcium at higher levels than necessary since your animal should be processing it better without the d3 supplementation than another that wouldn't be utilizing uvb. this could lead to calcium deposits and other issues that would slowly progress.

an example how that would be relative to vitamin dusting...
lets say you decide to look up info on healthy homemade gutload recipes. lets say the recipe you decide on has a good amount of carrots in it. assuming you'll be gutloading before every feeding and dusting for further supplementation... you might find someone who's very successful breeding their frogs and suggests dusting for vitamins twice weekly (they're probably not doing a whole lot of gutloading). every vitamin dust uses some sort of vitamin a (which in your case you got the good stuff that's mostly using beta carotene [much safer that way]). well now you'd be in the middle of half one routine and half another... most likely overdosing vitamin a. at that point there's a good chance you might have to struggle with vitamin a toxicity.

so assuming you're not using uvb and not using vit a or a whole lot (if any) of carrots in your gut load i'd say calcium dust 3-4 X's weekly with at least 1-2 X's being with d3 enriched calcium (all dusting can be with d3 if you don't over do it) and vitamin dust 1-2x weekly to 1x monthly and you should be ok.

this is my interpretation of things and is in no way written in stone. i'm sure there's somebody out there (most likely a few on this site) that understands nutrition as a whole a lot better than i do.

[spanky]

Well put beck, that's the detail I was to lazy to type out while half asleep on my iPhone haha.

[beckdg]

thank you spanky.

[rubiks]

Not using uvb bulb, Just day bulb and night bulb, Stays pretty warm in my office. Temp is not an issue. You know the stuff i have for crickets. If i were to just feed crickets lettuce and cherrios, Starting on Monday and continuing to sunday. What would be a good calcium dusting and a good multivitamin schedule. Like calcium every other day and multivitamin once over a 7 day period. Thanks.

[beckdg]

sounds good to me.