New mixed viv!

[wyatt003]

Ive had my 55g established for about a year now, but have always felt the fire bellied toads weren't happy without a good swimming hole. So yesterday i ripped the old one apart and started over.

This holds 6 green anoles, 1 eastern fence lizard, 2 Fire bellied toads, 5 Med. geckos, and 4 eastern red back salamanders.

The old viv-


And the new one-

[drm1217]

The new paludarium looks really good, much better than the old one! Im sure all of your pets will be very happy with their new swimming pool, especially the toads. its great that youve kept so many species together without a problem, not many people can do it.

[spend_day]

HOLD UP 4 red back salamanders are they plethodon cinereus or plethodon serratus? I honestly find it surprising you havent had problems with them.

this is why im so surprised, they are small enough to be eaten (a really big one might hit 12.5cm but they are a really skinny salamander), they need a much cooler temp than any of the other species and death due to heat stress, fungal and immune systems problems caused by the heat is well documented and they cant swim well.

[wyatt003]

Thanks for the comments! The salamanders are p. serratus. Everything in the viv was found here in alabama, except for the FB toads. I actually thought about them getting eatin when i placed them in it. But they were introduced to the old viv in October and I never saw them again until i emptied it two days ago. I really didnt think they had survived. Well 4 out of 5 did. I put on very small slimy salamander in too (p. grobmani?), but it didn't survive.

I really didnt think about the temperature factor though. I assumed they'd do alright because i caught them the same day as a few of the anoles and one of the med geckos.

P. serratus- although, it could easily be P. dorsalis dorsalis (zigzag)


P. grobmani (i think...)

[spend_day]

I guess with a tank of that size the red backs can find the cooler areas and keep out of the heat but temperture of over 24C tend to cause death and they are generally very sensitive to heat.

[jhouse]

Love the salamanders! My favorite part of this build is how you have the water dividing offset, creating both a large and small "island". Very cool!