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Old 12-06-2009, 01:49 AM
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Talking Yay! idea from 2008 finally coming to light!

I’m converting an old 29gal long breeder fishtank, and will hold one bahamian anole. I already have a 10gal tank set up for this little fella (he was a “rescue” lizard from off a pet store’s floor - yes, with permission and money) The 29gal tank will be placed in my bedroom, along the inner-wall which keeps the most heat. As I’d like this to be a temperate vivarium, I will not be adding a heater, rather letting the lights produce the heat.

I would like it to have a woods feeling with a small spring running down a hill and disappearing into the false-bottom. The false bottom won’t take up but about half the tank - maybe close to a third. There will be a hallowed-out log in the back left corner. I plan on cutting it so that it fits in the corner and has enough space to put a trailing plant in it. The start of the spring/waterfall will be at the back left corner of the tank. The water will then split and go in two different directions. The heavier fall will be closest to the spring, coming down a hill about seven inches high then twisting around in the front of the tank until it disappears in some rocks/driftwood on the left side of the tank. The second waterfall will just be a trickle of water. The water will flow along the back glass of the tank on a self and trickle down near the log and down into the false-bottom. As for plants, woodland ferns, moss (or Java moss if the natural moss doesn’t do well), dwarf mondo grass, a type of spiderplant that doesn’t have the spider-baby-making habit, English ivy (small leaved), Rex begonia, and dwarf umbrella tree (Schefflera arboricola). Lighting will be one 18” long bulb and one 36”long bulb. I have not checked wattage yet.

So- here are some pics of the taping up. I did this to leave up for a week or so to see if there would be a better way to arrange the system. …also because my mother doesn’t visualize well and there was confusion for a while… I’ve actually already changed my mind about how the background will interact with the log (on the right side with the arrow that says “log.”) I’m not going to let the background slope into the back glass before it reaches the log. That means that the 2nd waterfall (nearest the log) will be slanted facing the right corner of the tank instead of straight on when viewing from the front.

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That “2 inch strip” will either be a mirror siliconed to the outside glass, or it will be black electrical tape or other such item. The left side will have a removable 2” strip so that I can check water levels and such.
Lastly, I’ve been noticing that beginner terrariums/vivs have flat backgrounds. After looking over my plans, I fit this category :P So I’ll be making the background above the shelf a little more interesting than just being flat.

Will GS background, cover with silicone II (black) and then put choir (coco fiber) on top of that. I’ll also be putting PVC piping in the GS for plants.

The pump I will be using (I want to test it out first though which I’ll be doing tomorrow) is an Exo Terra 200. It puts out 45 US Gph and can work in ½” of water. There havn’t been a lot of reviews posted out this product online, but what I’ve read seems to indicate that this is a good pump. Any comments about it? It has no sponge filter, and I think I will construct a box or something so that it doesn’t suck up loose particles and clog up the pump.

I’m going to use screening for the false bottom cover. Is it ok to use aluminum screening for this? I have some left over from a garden pond project, and there is plenty for the job. However, if aluminum can leach into the water (when unheated) then I do not want to use it and I’ll go with fiberglass screening instead.

Ok, so… that was a mouth-full. :P
Any comments?
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Hi Daz,
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That is quite an ingenious 3D plan you have come up with.Don't think I have ever seen anything like it! You will find lots of info here,and it looks like you are off to a good start already.I do agree with you about the background. I also chose to do the GS/coconut background,and really glad I did. It does give the viv a more natural feel.I am sure you have seen most of the sticky threads.So you should have no trouble when you start construction. Good luck, and keep us posted
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20 gal. vivarium waterfall detail
Forgot to add this link.
This is a really nice slate waterfall.
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Ah very cool! Thank you Stimpy for the link. I havn't considered using slate in the waterfall area... I do have some slate pieces that I've saved from previous aquaria projects that I could use. I was just going to use river rock and push them into the background so that the water runs around them. I'll have to experiment with the slate idea.

^^ I have the log ready to install- all corned up nicely. I chose a log from our wood pile that already had a hollow spot in it. I'm planning to do a CO2 bath after everything is installed (including plants) so that it is a final defense against any unwanted critters and such.

I'm going to start siliconing the back right corner today, and play around with the pump to see how much of a water fall it will make :P
I'll keep you posted - with pictures. 'Tis annoying to try to visualize something with out pics.
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ugh. I just played around with the Exo Terra 200 pump... and it's not going to be enough flow for both waterfalls. I may end up buying a second to put in as that is the fastest pump available around these parts, unless I want to upgrade to a canister filter... which I don't. :P I'm going to have a conduit made of PVC piping to put the hose up into so that I can change the tubing if I need to. I'll just put two conduits in incase I want to put in another pump. I'm going to try it with the one pump first and see how it goes. I mean I didn't want a river, just a spring :P
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ugh. I just played around with the Exo Terra 200 pump... and it's not going to be enough flow for both waterfalls. I may end up buying a second to put in as that is the fastest pump available around these parts, unless I want to upgrade to a canister filter... which I don't. :P I'm going to have a conduit made of PVC piping to put the hose up into so that I can change the tubing if I need to. I'll just put two conduits in incase I want to put in another pump. I'm going to try it with the one pump first and see how it goes. I mean I didn't want a river, just a spring :P
Too bad,I'm not familiar with the Exo Terra pump. I use a Hagen 402 powerhead.It works well in a small amount of water,plus it has a flow valve so you can regulate it.I could probably attatch up to three different water features ,and still have plenty of water pressure.I was trying to remember when I bought the powerhead,and I am pretty sure it is over 10 years old,and has been used continually in a saltwater aquarium.So really good value for the money.IMO ,you would need a lot of water to run a canister filter??Will wait to hear what you decide on.
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I don't want a canister filter because I don't want like having outside pumps. Preference really I suppose, although me and my family's experiences with canister filters arn't exactly the most healthy experiences. T'm still looking into the pump question (and filtration), but I'm still preferable to just a sponge filter with regular water changes.
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I did add a foam filter to the powerhead.Works really well.
As you can see,it is good for water that is only 3-4 inches
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? Is this inside the tank, or in a sump? If inside the tank, then I suppose that the pic is taken from the back, right?
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? Is this inside the tank, or in a sump? If inside the tank, then I suppose that the pic is taken from the back, right?
Yeah it's hard to tell unless it was you taking the picture. It is inside the vivarium. I built a false bottom with eggcrate.then covered that with fine plastic mosquito screen(you can see that in the photo)The water portion is about 4 inches deep.I was standing at the front of the viv,just off to the right hand side.What you can't see,is at the back of the viv in the back right corner I cut out a 4" X 4" hole to access the powerhead and submersible heater.It makes the maintenance easier.Does that make sense?
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