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Old 01-03-2010, 01:48 PM
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hey there everyone i got a 24 gallon biocube that im trying to turn into a V but im having a hard time keeping the temp stay around 88 degree. in the day if i keep the fish tank lights on the temp stays around 85 86 but soon as i turn the light off at night it drops to 72 so i went out a installed a heating pad but i installed it on the wall since i got some plants on the floor of the tank and even with the heating pad installed the temp in the morning is around 72 please help here are some pic i cant into the tank since its not mine
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Old 01-03-2010, 06:55 PM
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since your deeper rooted plants are in the front why not put a strip of 3" or 4" flexwatt across the back bottom? how about a ceramic heat emitter? they're much more reliable and don't produce light so you don't have to worry about the heat turning off at night. full spectrum fluorescent bulb would be good for your plants anyway. there's always the option of creating a background and putting heat rope inside of it too. that should really help.

are there to be any animals in there? if so, what?

also, i'm a firm believer in the benefits of foil tape. that should help your heat mats efficiency a bit.
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Yes the reason that I am setting this up is for a Green Tree Python that my wife bought me. But I am having trouble keeping the humidity up, the tank that I have was originally a salt water aquarium that was self contained Nano cube. I haven't changed the lights out yet and am not sure that i have a place to put the ceramic heat emitter without drilling a hole into the back of the tank.

One thing that I was told was to get a fogger to help with the humidity, but I am still struggling. Which I haven't bought yet because I am not sure that it would work.
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:37 PM
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the fogger would work just fine imo for your humidity. i would correct that heat first though. that gtp will likely outgrow that tank in the first couple yrs just so you know.

my first steps for humidity would be to close off any huge openings while still leaving a little bit of openings for fresh air flow. after that i'd put that heat pad on the bottom and tape around it real good with cheap foil tape. warming up that soil should increase the humidity pretty good. 72 isn't exactly too bad for a night temp but i'd want it at least 75 myself 78 would be a bit better.

for future reference... never put your heat source bare inside your setup! that's bad jujus.

just curious... where were you getting your information prior to this? i find typically pet stores are the worst source of information. breeders... although more dedicated and typically involved more in the science of things also have their down sides. for instance they feed their snakes every week regardless age and hunger... well except during breeding season. this is not indicative of what they'd find in the wild so usually what we'd see as a very healthy snake is actually bordering if not well over the lines of obese.

don't be afraid to put plenty of heat in there for him. i know everyone says 1/3 of the bottom is a maximum but i find that to be far from true in many cases. it's best to have a decent gradient of acceptable temps than a cold spot that's really out of the ideal range.

anyway since the little guy is arboreal he'll want heat coming from above anyway. you might want to consider making a hood for your tank. i know it's not what you'd want to hear but it's really ideal for him.

i'd think that some plants will do just fine with warm roots. i could be wrong but they do sell uth's at my local hydroponics store. if the one you have won't cut it you might want to see what your local hydro shop has. it might save you some money too.

anyway... since you've got some improvements to make... save yourself some money... good places to buy... please add to it!
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Here's a possibility, if the tank is in a small room in your house you could just warm the ambient temp in the room with a small floor heater.

Also, I'd be wary of the dial temp/humidity gauges in the tank. The are rarely accurate, and since you need a bit of a gradient of heat, the dial won't tell you what each spot in the tank is at. You should look into a digital thermometer/hygrometer.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:45 PM
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i've been thinking lately and my crazy theory is that if one were to have a backup thermostat to plug into it would be possible to insulate the inside of a cabinet with oven or lamp insulation and put a small heater or mount a hair dryer in there.

if constructed and insulated correctly the ambient heat would rise and surround the enclosure. you'd also be controlling the temperature of the air inside the cabinet so it wouldn't be like putting it on top of a fireplace to cook either.

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heh. nice disclaimer beck. lol
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awwww, shucks thank you dazzle. lol
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Why not put a lager heat pad on the bottom and keep it nice and damp in there. I think your snake is more important then a small area of plants.
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